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Dog training question???

tarafied1

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Maybe some of the dog experts can help me, or more accurately help my wife. Our dog Shelby passed away over a year ago, she was a great dog. Great Pyrenees/Collie mix. Anyway, since I travel a lot and the kids are all grown my wife wanted another dog. She somehow manged to get the most stupid dog in the existence of dogs. He is a Cockapoo and is about 8 months old. So he is a puppy. Probably been inbred too much because he is really stupid. Also he is a bit cross-eyed. Well my wife has been working with him about 6 months and still has not been able to house train him. His nick name is "Peter Pooped" because everyday I ask her if he peed or pooped in the house again! So any advice or the training would be appreciated! She is not having any luck and I'm going to kill him pretty soon.
Thanks in advance! You could be saving a dogs life
 
When we got our new puppy a few years ago we decided to try something different, we hung a bell off the doorknob and every time we took her out we would ring the bell. It didn't take long for her to catch on and she rings the bell every time she needs to go out. She also gets a treat every time. She has also figured out she gets a treat every time she rings the bell. If your dog is truly dumb, might not catch on. Our cat has even figured out the bell and rings it when he wants out. When our puppy did make a mistake, we would take the paper towel we cleaned it up with and put it in the yard for her to smell.
 
thanks, that sounds like it will be worth a try! We have five cats also. They just come and stare at us or stand by the door and meow when they want out but the dog ... well, I will try the bell.
 
The only issue we have with the bell, we have a 2 story house and if we are upstairs we don't hear it. She will usually come get us, but there have been a few accidents by the door. At least we know she tried!
 
Kennel the puppy whenever you can't have constant eyes on it. Take the dog out every hour or so on a leash, as soon as it starts to do any "business" give it a word you want to use when toileting. It takes persistence and consistency with the command and eventually the dog will Get It. 99% of the time, a dog will give you a look of some sort saying "I got to go man". It's our job to figure that out.

If you see the dog start to squat, don't yell, just scoop up the dog and run outside, put the dog down and give it the command. Before long you can have a dog that toilets on command! We do this with every CCI pup and it has never failed to work.
 
Kennel the puppy whenever you can't have constant eyes on it. Take the dog out every hour or so on a leash, as soon as it starts to do any "business" give it a word you want to use when toileting. It takes persistence and consistency with the command and eventually the dog will Get It. 99% of the time, a dog will give you a look of some sort saying "I got to go man". It's our job to figure that out.

If you see the dog start to squat, don't yell, just scoop up the dog and run outside, put the dog down and give it the command. Before long you can have a dog that toilets on command! We do this with every CCI pup and it has never failed to work.


Mark nailed it. It takes a lot of work and consistency to get them trained, but once done it works flawlessly. You must be regimented to take them out regularly, even if you think they don't need it. Our dog now sits by the back door when she needs to go out, not one accident since she has been trained.
 
Kennel the puppy whenever you can't have constant eyes on it. Take the dog out every hour or so on a leash, as soon as it starts to do any "business" give it a word you want to use when toileting. It takes persistence and consistency with the command and eventually the dog will Get It. 99% of the time, a dog will give you a look of some sort saying "I got to go man". It's our job to figure that out.

If you see the dog start to squat, don't yell, just scoop up the dog and run outside, put the dog down and give it the command. Before long you can have a dog that toilets on command! We do this with every CCI pup and it has never failed to work.


He's right on.

Hey it worked for my kids.:D:rolleyes:
 
I found the most successful method of training our dogs is by example. I simply take the dog outside with me whenever I need to go and make it watch what i'm doing. Before long they catch on and do their business outside too. I don't think my neighbors like my method but its none of their business in the first place! :p
 
Yes it takes time as everyone else has said. So do not give up. Little shart dog “go potty” should work. For our German Shepherds I like “take a break”. {.}

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I will say, when trying to teach new commands, try to use only one word. Say the command ONCE only. If you say it more than once the dog will learn to only perform the task after hearing it 2,3,4 etc... times.


Mark
 
Thanks!!! that sounds like a lot of work! I'm going to pick up some antifreeze, or shot gun shells... yeah, the shells will be faster.
but seriously, thanks.
now how do I get my wife to do this!?!? potty train the dog I mean, she is already potty trained, lol.
 
Not trying to be an ass, but since it comes naturally, dogs only know human expectations when we put in the effort to teach them. Way too many people have the misconception that dogs “know” what we’re saying.


Mark
 
Not trying to be an ass, but since it comes naturally, dogs only know human expectations when we put in the effort to teach them. Way too many people have the misconception that dogs “know” what we’re saying.


Mark
I appreciate your input, it was what I was looking for. My problem is maybe not as much the dog as it my wife. seriously, she wanted this dog because I am gone a lot and lonely. So she really needs to be the one to train him (I think). I can do it when I am home but she is consistently home while I am not and she wanted the dog (me not so much). Mostly because I knew this would be the problem, I told her if she got a puppy it would be a lot of work. She thinks he is not a puppy anymore and should be trained by now! She isn't the most patient! But I will work it out (or kill the dog).
 
OK, now my serious response. I seem to always start with puppies or very young dogs when they find me. I've been fortunate to have luck in getting intelligent pups. Even then, as Mark says, it takes consistent effort and lots of it. To me the most important thing is consistency. Let them out every morning at the same time, at the same point in your routine. Use very simple commands and keep it the same. Reward good behavior. Punishing bad doesn't do anything. By the time you are scolding it for going in the house it hasn't a clue what you are yelling about. Most importantly (and I hate seconding that idiot {.}...but he is right), just get to know the dog and watch for its cues. It WILL tell you when it has to go. All mine always do so directly by coming up to me, giving me "the look" or similar. We stupid people just miss it if we aren't watching for it. And like young kids, when a pup realizes it has to go the window to get them out is short. One last bit of "bad"news. Even my best trainee had an accident here or there until past a year old. Typically, when they were left alone too long but after a year old or so my dogs would rather blow up than pee in the house.

I am biased as I only have and like big dogs but my experience has been that mutts and larger breeds tend to train easier. Little yapper types seem to be a real pain in the ass in this area and lots more.
 
I am biased as I only have and like big dogs but my experience has been that mutts and larger breeds tend to train easier. Little yapper types seem to be a real pain in the ass in this area and lots more.
that's been my experience as well. So thanks everyone for the input. I have shared this all with my wife and we have had a lot of discussions and sometimes a little heated but we have decided to get rid of the dog. She doesn't want the responsibility alone and neither I or the remaining son (who is moving out this spring anyway) are around enough to be much help or at least consistent.
She prefers little yapper dogs, which I do not like. But to be honest I am not really a dog person. Don't get me wrong, I have had dogs and really loved them but I just have no patience for this one. He is destroying our furniture, wood floors, rugs, etc. etc. My wife doesn't like the idea of keeping him in a kennel. We have had to keep doors shut, curtains closed (because he barks at everything) and put up gates to keep him in one area. I feel like I am living in toilet/kennel/prison.
Sorry to rant, needed to vent
 
Better to realize this dog is not for you now, then to grow a hatred of it. There’s the right person for most dogs.

I know from raising this pup for CCI, that I’m done after Lucas. I just don’t have it in me anymore.


Mark
 
thanks for the advice, and yes this dog is not for me. My wife even has been pretty fed up with him when she finally admitted it. Hopefully we can find him a good home
 
Sounds like a good mix for a herd dog. I have 3 Great Pyrenees that are with my parents goats.. The only thing I do not like about the Pyrenees, they love to dig.
 
I absolutely want to see a video of that cockapoo out in a field herding livestock. I promise you if it survives the ordeal it will do its very best to never piss you off again! :p

Me thinks you misread his post. That great pyrenees mix was an old friend not his new demon.
 
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