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1968 MUSTANG GT CONV J CODE W/ALTERED VIN 8T03J194048

Discussion in 'General Mustang Discussion' started by stang32, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. Fst Blk

    Fst Blk Well-Known Member

    I don’t see any difference of taking a clapped out fb and using a donor coupe to repair it. Wouldn’t it still not be a fb? I don’t see the problem with that. Shoot it would be more original than a dynacorn replacement sheet metal restored car.


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  2. Horseplay

    Horseplay I Don't Care. Do you?

    I'm not being hypocritical on this. I'm likely good with using a donor body to save an original FB. Not a fan of just swapping the roof as many do. While it doesn't create an additional FB, it is a short-cut way to bring the volume count up without the effort and expense of completely saving an original. Fine line but a line in my mind anyway.

    This whole subject can be flipped back and forth rather easily. The only place I know I'm totally solid on is in the case of saving a truly special car. Something which was in limited supply to begin with and benefits the mustang story by saving. I LOVE 65/66 FBs, for instance, but there are enough around that losing one to rot doesn't cause them to fade away to memory.
     
  3. Fst Blk

    Fst Blk Well-Known Member

    I’m not disagreeing. More like adding thoughts. It is a fine line, but imo so is a restoration where most metal is replaced. At what point isn’t it the original car anymore??


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  4. guruatbol

    guruatbol Always on vacation!

    As for the VIN being different on a FB, my 65 that I sold with all original sheet metal had no difference in the VIN that I'm aware of than a C code coupe and in Utah as with many states there is no designation at DMV on the registration for a fastback. It is listed as a coupe unless it is a vert.

    So hard to tell the original from a cobbled together conversion or a dynacorn body with a donor VIN.

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  5. Fst Blk

    Fst Blk Well-Known Member

    3rd characters dictate body type. 07 is a coupe 08 is a vert 09 is a fb in 65.


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  6. guruatbol

    guruatbol Always on vacation!

    Good to know.

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  7. Horseplay

    Horseplay I Don't Care. Do you?

    Well, technically it is the fourth character than defines the body type but since counting isn't most Kentuckians strong suit you get a pass. :p
     
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  8. Fst Blk

    Fst Blk Well-Known Member

    Suck it lol.


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  9. subpar63

    subpar63 No good deed goes unpunished

    Yeah, that's some funny chit right there - - -

    An acquaintance of mine sold his Coupe > FB conversion early last year - nice looking and from my (un)trained conversion eye seemed to be done quite well by a previous owner - When sold he did not hide the fact it was a conversion. Sold for around $14K - well below what a true FB in the same shape would have sold for.

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  10. Horseplay

    Horseplay I Don't Care. Do you?

    That's interesting. You know somewhere along the line somebody took a bath. Just to acquire all the bits needed for such a conversion has to cost thousands. Then the cost of the car and all the other normal restoration costs on top. Good on him for his honesty.
     
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  11. tarafied1

    tarafied1 Well-Known Member

    I was doing a coupe to FB conversion on a 65 (and sold it to a member here). I had no intention of changing the VIN and no intention to deceive anyone. I simply had a FB roof and a fairly rust free 6 cylinder coupe for pretty price. I was in fact going to just drag race it. I thought it would be cool. Anyway, my point is I guess is that the roof doner was complete junk and VIN's were gone. The 6 cylinder coupe was bought at a swap meet and may or may not have been restored but most likely would have been stripped of good parts and scrapped. So the way I look at it, I was keeping "a" Mustang alive. I have a friend who did a 67 coupe to FB conversion and he really enjoys it. It saved again two piles of junk and he also doesn't hide that it is a conversion.
     
  12. Horseplay

    Horseplay I Don't Care. Do you?

    Hmmmm. When you say the VINs were gone, gone as in missing or rotted away? I'm assuming someone took and used the VINs on a restoration project using a donor body but maybe not.
     
  13. tarafied1

    tarafied1 Well-Known Member

    the fastback was in a junkyard for many years. It was clear it had already been made out of three cars. The front clip was clearly from a separate car and the rear from axle back was from yet another car. I only saved the roof and scrapped the rest. There was no title for the VIN on the front clip. Rays 65 rear day1.jpg
     
  14. Mach1Mark

    Mach1Mark Ramrod extraordinaire Donator

    Technically technically its the third AND fourth character . . .
     
  15. subpar63

    subpar63 No good deed goes unpunished

    And as an update, I just happened to see this car yesterday sitting on a used car lot - Price tag of $30K - wowzers ! ! !
     
  16. Horseplay

    Horseplay I Don't Care. Do you?

    You HAVE TO go look at it as a prospective buyer and see if they are upfront about it. Then you can have some real fun when you call them on it if they aren't honest.
     
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  17. kb3

    kb3 Well-Known Member

    It better be a really nice car to bring in that kind of money as a Frankenstein car! Could buy a decent, driver quality true fastback for $30k.
     

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