1968 MUSTANG GT CONV J CODE W/ALTERED VIN 8T03J194048

I don’t see any difference of taking a clapped out fb and using a donor coupe to repair it. Wouldn’t it still not be a fb? I don’t see the problem with that. Shoot it would be more original than a dynacorn replacement sheet metal restored car.


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I'm not being hypocritical on this. I'm likely good with using a donor body to save an original FB. Not a fan of just swapping the roof as many do. While it doesn't create an additional FB, it is a short-cut way to bring the volume count up without the effort and expense of completely saving an original. Fine line but a line in my mind anyway.

This whole subject can be flipped back and forth rather easily. The only place I know I'm totally solid on is in the case of saving a truly special car. Something which was in limited supply to begin with and benefits the mustang story by saving. I LOVE 65/66 FBs, for instance, but there are enough around that losing one to rot doesn't cause them to fade away to memory.

 

I’m not disagreeing. More like adding thoughts. It is a fine line, but imo so is a restoration where most metal is replaced. At what point isn’t it the original car anymore??


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As for the VIN being different on a FB, my 65 that I sold with all original sheet metal had no difference in the VIN that I'm aware of than a C code coupe and in Utah as with many states there is no designation at DMV on the registration for a fastback. It is listed as a coupe unless it is a vert.

So hard to tell the original from a cobbled together conversion or a dynacorn body with a donor VIN.

Mel

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3rd characters dictate body type. 07 is a coupe 08 is a vert 09 is a fb in 65.


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Good to know.

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Well, technically it is the fourth character than defines the body type but since counting isn't most Kentuckians strong suit you get a pass.

 

Suck it lol.


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Yeah, that's some funny chit right there - - -

An acquaintance of mine sold his Coupe > FB conversion early last year - nice looking and from my (un)trained conversion eye seemed to be done quite well by a previous owner - When sold he did not hide the fact it was a conversion. Sold for around $14K - well below what a true FB in the same shape would have sold for.

John

 

That's interesting. You know somewhere along the line somebody took a bath. Just to acquire all the bits needed for such a conversion has to cost thousands. Then the cost of the car and all the other normal restoration costs on top. Good on him for his honesty.

 

I was doing a coupe to FB conversion on a 65 (and sold it to a member here). I had no intention of changing the VIN and no intention to deceive anyone. I simply had a FB roof and a fairly rust free 6 cylinder coupe for pretty price. I was in fact going to just drag race it. I thought it would be cool. Anyway, my point is I guess is that the roof doner was complete junk and VIN's were gone. The 6 cylinder coupe was bought at a swap meet and may or may not have been restored but most likely would have been stripped of good parts and scrapped. So the way I look at it, I was keeping "a" Mustang alive. I have a friend who did a 67 coupe to FB conversion and he really enjoys it. It saved again two piles of junk and he also doesn't hide that it is a conversion.

 

Hmmmm. When you say the VINs were gone, gone as in missing or rotted away? I'm assuming someone took and used the VINs on a restoration project using a donor body but maybe not.

 

the fastback was in a junkyard for many years. It was clear it had already been made out of three cars. The front clip was clearly from a separate car and the rear from axle back was from yet another car. I only saved the roof and scrapped the rest. There was no title for the VIN on the front clip.

 

Technically technically its the third AND fourth character . . .

 

And as an update, I just happened to see this car yesterday sitting on a used car lot - Price tag of $30K - wowzers ! ! !

 

You HAVE TO go look at it as a prospective buyer and see if they are upfront about it. Then you can have some real fun when you call them on it if they aren't honest.

 

It better be a really nice car to bring in that kind of money as a Frankenstein car! Could buy a decent, driver quality true fastback for $30k.