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302 is coming out.
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AzPete
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Re: 302 is combing out.
yes
yes
tarafied1
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Re: 302 is combing out.
it bolts to the trans trough the motor plate. You will have to at least unbolt it but you may be leave it laying in there. Are you leaving the headers in the car while you swap the engine?
it bolts to the trans trough the motor plate. You will have to at least unbolt it but you may be leave it laying in there. Are you leaving the headers in the car while you swap the engine?
Re: Re: 302 is combing out.
I thought about pulling the headers with the old engine simply because it would be easier to mount them to the new engine, but I was told that it would be better to leave them in the car.
I'm open to all suggestions.
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"tarafied1" said:
I thought about pulling the headers with the old engine simply because it would be easier to mount them to the new engine, but I was told that it would be better to leave them in the car.
I'm open to all suggestions.
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AzPete
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Re: 302 is combing out.
I believe the headers have to be off to remove the engine for clearance. I have been wrong before so......
I believe the headers have to be off to remove the engine for clearance. I have been wrong before so......
Re: 302 is combing out.
It looks like tomorrow is the day for pulling the original out.
I see where I can unbolt the block from the mounts (2 bolts each side), or I can leave 1/2 the mount on the block and pull one bolt on each side.
Any thoughts?
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It looks like tomorrow is the day for pulling the original out.
I see where I can unbolt the block from the mounts (2 bolts each side), or I can leave 1/2 the mount on the block and pull one bolt on each side.
Any thoughts?
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Re: 302 is combing out.
Okay,
I put the new engine in over the weekend without too much pain. Over lunch today I reinstalled the starter and thought I would crank the engine to make sure everything was coming together, the engine would not crank!
Prior to putting the engine back in I was able to turn the engine by hand at the harmonic balancer with both the flex plate and the torque converter installed.
I removed the starter thinking maybe it was jammed, it wasn't and now I can't turn the engine by hand anymore.
Did I miss something with the tranny or something else? :Mark
Okay,
I put the new engine in over the weekend without too much pain. Over lunch today I reinstalled the starter and thought I would crank the engine to make sure everything was coming together, the engine would not crank!
Prior to putting the engine back in I was able to turn the engine by hand at the harmonic balancer with both the flex plate and the torque converter installed.
I removed the starter thinking maybe it was jammed, it wasn't and now I can't turn the engine by hand anymore.
Did I miss something with the tranny or something else? :Mark
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Anonymous
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Re: 302 is combing out.
What did I do??
What did I do??
Re: 302 is combing out.
I'm guessing you don't have the converter fully engaged in the trans since you wrote you had the flexplate and it mounted to the engine. I've never done it that way myself. Always put the converter on the trans and then mounted the trans to the engine/flexplate.
I'm guessing you don't have the converter fully engaged in the trans since you wrote you had the flexplate and it mounted to the engine. I've never done it that way myself. Always put the converter on the trans and then mounted the trans to the engine/flexplate.
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Anonymous
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Re: 302 is combing out.
Wish I could help, but I've never messed with an auto transmission.
Wish I could help, but I've never messed with an auto transmission.
Re: 302 is combing out.
Other please chime in here as well if you have actual experience. I'm thinking that the converter is not fully seated into the trans and has created a bind when he bolted things back together. Looking for confirmation.
Other please chime in here as well if you have actual experience. I'm thinking that the converter is not fully seated into the trans and has created a bind when he bolted things back together. Looking for confirmation.
Re: 302 is combing out.
Unless somebody else has away around this I'll pull the engine again :yah with the Torque Converter attached to the flexplate, remove the converter and seat it in the transmission, and reinstall the engine.
How do I know if the Torque converter is seated properly?
Unless somebody else has away around this I'll pull the engine again :yah with the Torque Converter attached to the flexplate, remove the converter and seat it in the transmission, and reinstall the engine.
How do I know if the Torque converter is seated properly?
Re: 302 is combing out.
Fill up the converter with fluid and then slide it onto the trans shaft pushing it on until it feels like it "hits bottom". Now applying just a small amount of force against it, spin the converter slowly until you feel it move in a bit more. This is it engaging the trans pump.
If you look on the end of the converter shaft you will see a couple notches. It drops in that second little bit when the notches are lined up with the internal pump. I hope that makes sense.
Fill up the converter with fluid and then slide it onto the trans shaft pushing it on until it feels like it "hits bottom". Now applying just a small amount of force against it, spin the converter slowly until you feel it move in a bit more. This is it engaging the trans pump.
If you look on the end of the converter shaft you will see a couple notches. It drops in that second little bit when the notches are lined up with the internal pump. I hope that makes sense.
Re: 302 is combing out.
If you lay a straight edge across the face of the bellhousing and measure from it to the face of the mounting feet of the converter it should be about 1 1/8" when fully seated.
If you lay a straight edge across the face of the bellhousing and measure from it to the face of the mounting feet of the converter it should be about 1 1/8" when fully seated.
Grabber70Mach
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Re: 302 is combing out.
Sounds like you are on the right track. The bad news is if the torque converter wasn't lined up correctly and you used the bolts to pull the transmission and motor together you probably damaged the pump.
Sounds like you are on the right track. The bad news is if the torque converter wasn't lined up correctly and you used the bolts to pull the transmission and motor together you probably damaged the pump.
tarafied1
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Re: 302 is combing out.
I think Terry hit on the head, I hope there is no damage. You might be able to separate the engine and trans in the car without pulling either. Just keep the trans on a jack and pull it back enough to get at the converter.
I broke a pump that way but for a different reason. 460's and older 429's have a different size pilot. But I broke the pump trying to "pull' the engine and trans together with the bolts."Grabber70Mach" said:
I think Terry hit on the head, I hope there is no damage. You might be able to separate the engine and trans in the car without pulling either. Just keep the trans on a jack and pull it back enough to get at the converter.