Not having a rotisserie, I got skinny and welded mine in with the car sitting on all four wheels. And I do try to be logical but more importantly, I spend sometimes months researching major stuff I buy or do to my car. That includes the Net and talking to lots of people with experience on the subject. Plus lessons I've learned over the years. If you read enough, talk enough and have a decent mind for the stuff you can generally come out with the right solutions. Obviously 's parents took the easier path to child rearing. Now we in the mustang society have to pay the price.