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JeffTepper

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I was in the middle of composing this post when the original thread I was responding to was locked. I believe this post has some value so I am posting it anyway!!

Having been here since nearly the beginning, and at VMF since late 1999, I have some opinions about the changes over there and for the most part I have shared those opinions on a number of posts here over the past many months. Cloney's comment in this thread about bitchy ex wives got me thinking, and perhaps the VMF related posts here are something entirely different. Rather than a bitter ex wife, could it be that the posts critical of the new VMF are part of a grieving process? A community that we once knew is now gone and depending upon the individual, that loss is dealt with alternately by denial, anger, pain, and for some, acceptance. This is not meant to sound like dime store psychology, rather a possible explanantion for the compelling pull this train wreck of VMF threads has on all of us.

I am gratefull to Rick, Randy, and the other pioneers of StangFix for investing the energy and resources necessary allowing the core of the old community to find a new home.
 
I think the other post about *why were you banned* covered it all...I have been around the VMF for a long long time and most recently I have become part of this forum. Most of you know I have made it a point to attend the Corn Feeds as well as show up in California for Knotts. I am probably one of the few that has made an appearance at both events, and I will continue to do so for as long as I can. I have shared deaths, lost dogs, births, marriages , and various hardships over the years, from various members. To me it was always about the people and the good friends I have made along the way and hopefully for life. I consider the people I have met over the last 10 years to be my friends. You see it doesn't matter to me what forum we decide is better or worse. The friends I have made are what keeps me coming back. Yes sometimes talk became a little petty, but hell we are just people airing it out, and for some a petty problem is serious. I respect and admire the friends I have made and from all over the country through this or any other forum. I only wish some of the other people be they here or on the other forum would feel the same way. The time has come to stop knocking either forum and just enjoy each others company. The VMF afforded us a place to gather, so what if it turned into something that seemed to get to some people. It was started as a hobby and grew into a huge expensive enterprise, but lets give the starter of that forum some credit for his effort. So now we have Stangfix, lets enjoy the people here and move on, we are, after all, friends bound together for love of the hobby.
 
"Teebone" said:
I think the other post about *why were you banned* covered it all...I have been around the VMF for a long long time and most recently I have become part of this forum. Most of you know I have made it a point to attend the Corn Feeds as well as show up in California for Knotts. I am probably one of the few that has made an appearance at both events, and I will continue to do so for as long as I can. I have shared deaths, lost dogs, births, marriages , and various hardships over the years, from various members. To me it was always about the people and the good friends I have made along the way and hopefully for life. I consider the people I have met over the last 10 years to be my friends. You see it doesn't matter to me what forum we decide is better or worse. The friends I have made are what keeps me coming back. Yes sometimes talk became a little petty, but hell we are just people airing it out, and for some a petty problem is serious. I respect and admire the friends I have made and from all over the country through this or any other forum. I only wish some of the other people be they here or on the other forum would feel the same way. The time has come to stop knocking either forum and just enjoy each others company. The VMF afforded us a place to gather, so what if it turned into something that seemed to get to some people. It was started as a hobby and grew into a huge expensive enterprise, but lets give the starter of that forum some credit for his effort. So now we have Stangfix, lets enjoy the people here and move on, we are, after all, friends bound together for love of the hobby.
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Group Hug - Vinny gets the middle... :3sum
Seriously - well said! :pbj
 
I was on VMF for the better part of the last decade - though i had a 3 year period I wasn't there and lost my nick/password - and lived through 3 "server" changes (when we all lost our post history). I still got that first T-shirt from back in like 2000/01 - it sits on the seat in the Shelby. I still go on VMF, but it's lost part of it's soul. I've gotten to meet some great folks at the Knott's get togethers that I would not have met if it weren't for VMF, but never made a Corn Feed (though I wanted to). It's too bad when it got big it was hard to manage - I guess it was "too" successful.

All things change.
 
Vinny (with a y) said it well, I have never bashed the vmf, I just withdrew and stayed away, I also consider a lot of the people on both forums my friends (even some I have never met in person) it is definitely a place where I air stuff that would be difficult to talk about with others, I hope to stick around and get to some more get togethers in upcoming years, I have met VinnY and his better half a couple of times and really enjoyed his company and would call him a friend, Midlife, Laurie, and many others also.
 
"Teebone" said:
I think the other post about *why were you banned* covered it all...I have been around the VMF for a long long time and most recently I have become part of this forum. Most of you know I have made it a point to attend the Corn Feeds as well as show up in California for Knotts. I am probably one of the few that has made an appearance at both events, and I will continue to do so for as long as I can. I have shared deaths, lost dogs, births, marriages , and various hardships over the years, from various members. To me it was always about the people and the good friends I have made along the way and hopefully for life. I consider the people I have met over the last 10 years to be my friends. You see it doesn't matter to me what forum we decide is better or worse. The friends I have made are what keeps me coming back. Yes sometimes talk became a little petty, but hell we are just people airing it out, and for some a petty problem is serious. I respect and admire the friends I have made and from all over the country through this or any other forum. I only wish some of the other people be they here or on the other forum would feel the same way. The time has come to stop knocking either forum and just enjoy each others company. The VMF afforded us a place to gather, so what if it turned into something that seemed to get to some people. It was started as a hobby and grew into a huge expensive enterprise, but lets give the starter of that forum some credit for his effort. So now we have Stangfix, lets enjoy the people here and move on, we are, after all, friends bound together for love of the hobby.
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Amen Vin! :ecit

Can't wait to see you again at CFX by the way.
 
Good post Vinny.

I completely agree with you.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. On no level do I have a beef with VMF or anyone associated with it. Bob and VMF have made an irreplaceable contribution to the hobby.

As far as I'm concerned any one of them, Bob included is welcome here. Will that ever happen? Who knows?

Like Vinny, I have met some of the best friends I have EVER had through VMF and some of those relationships have developed further here.

I'll share something with you. Dave will probably back this up. Dave Sanborn and I did not particularly mesh on VMF. We both put that aside and together began to build this place and I'd like to say that Dave and I have become friends. I can't wait to meet the sum-bitch. Dave is undoubtedly one of the best things to happen to this operation. He'll claim he's done nothing, but I can assure it would be a different place without him.
 
I think this thread is becoming :ga

Come on guys, hug it out :3sum and move along.... LOL

Some good points!
 
Yah who would have thought that Dave sanborn would be the voice of reason?????? Hell, be on the lookout I see cold weather in your future
 
"Sluggo" said:
I'll share something with you. Dave will probably back this up. Dave Sanborn and I did not particularly mesh on VMF. We both put that aside and together began to build this place and I'd like to say that Dave and I have become friends. I can't wait to meet the sum-bitch. Dave is undoubtedly one of the best things to happen to this operation. He'll claim he's done nothing, but I can assure it would be a different place without him.
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Wait a minute!!! Aren't you the one accusing people of getting "soft"? Take it to a private room. I'm gonna change your name to Huggo.
 
"blue65coupe" said:
I'm gonna change your name to Huggo.
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Doux it! :rofl

Like sluggo, I've got nothing against the VMF...I'm just sad that it isn't what it once was. I do not, however, care for bob one bit. I used to think he was a pretty cool fella, but now I dunno if I want to go to CFX like I used to dream of doing.
 
Alright, since this opened back up, the REAL reason I left was because I couldn't get a window decal....

:dh
 
"Havok1" said:
Alright, since this opened back up, the REAL reason I left was because I couldn't get a window decal....

:dh
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We have something better coming.......
 
"Havok1" said:
Alright, since this opened back up, the REAL reason I left was because I couldn't get a window decal....

:dh
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ah HA HA HA HA!!!!


And to think, I actually cut mine up to fit my quarter window better, then realized it looked like arse and threw it away... :beat
 
"Sluggo" said:
We have something better coming.......
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I know. :craz I just figured if Craig was going to bring that damn Fuji picture from the dead, why not the decal.
 
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