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I read years ago hydrogen was our future cars power supply.

Nope --wrong again---would someone fix it or you could copy to look it up, neat gm car. I am ready for the attack to begin on my poor computer skills, bring it on. :po
 
It is very cool! It would make renting a car during a stop at the body shop kinda different. You could unbolt it and leave the body to be worked on and rent a body and just pick yours up when it was done.

It is kinda cool! I know it would take alot to get used to the drive by wire for us old farts.

Mel
 
They said 10-20 years.

Besides we live on internet time now anyway! We are supposed to get things instantly.

Mel
 
That is not at all what I expected to see. Why go to the dealer to change bodies, why not just by two or three bodies. Pickup truck body, minivan body and regular car body. Just slap the "power supply" on to the body that you need. On my last job one of the customers, kia, had a hydrogen research facility that I did some service calls on. They had a hydrogen fueling station out in front. Now I always thought that it was some type of internal combustion engine that ran on hydrogen. BMW also had some hydrogen test cars as well. BUT the biggest question that I have is how is hydrogen produced? What are the by products and how much pollution does that process produce? Otherwise that very well could be the future of transportation. fd
 
I believe he said they extract the hydrogen from sea water, then during usage it combines with oxygen with the byproduct of water.

For a commuter vehicle, it sounds like a great concept, it's more of a utilitarian mode of travel.
 
Hydrogen is procured from water (currently) using electricity. An electrical charge forces the Hydrogen and Oxygen atom to split apart.

Instead of storing electricity in batteries, you're essentially storing it in hydrogen. So the byproducts of "producing" hydrogen are the same as the byproducts of producing electricity for battery cars. It's just that hydrogen is a much more efficient storage system. There are other ways to "produce" hydrogen, but electrolysis is the most best way we have for now.

Note that when Jeremy Clarkson brags you can run your neighborhood on that car, that does NOT Mean that you would save money to do so. Basic law of physics is that you cannot get more energy out of an energy store than you put into it. In fact you will get less. That is to say it takes MORE electricity to "produce" the hydrogen in the tanks than said hydrogen can produce when catalyzed in the fuel cells.

When I say "produce" hydrogen, I'm actually mean "capture", since hydrogen can't really be produced.

At the end of the day THIS hydrogen car is just an electric, plain and simple.
 
What we need are miniature nuclear powered engines. I can't see anything going wrong with that!
 
"silverblueBP" said:
What we need are miniature nuclear powered engines. I can't see anything going wrong with that!
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Neither do I. :scar fd
 
"AtlantaSteve" said:
Hydrogen is procured from water (currently) using electricity. An electrical charge forces the Hydrogen and Oxygen atom to split apart.

Instead of storing electricity in batteries, you're essentially storing it in hydrogen. So the byproducts of "producing" hydrogen are the same as the byproducts of producing electricity for battery cars. It's just that hydrogen is a much more efficient storage system. There are other ways to "produce" hydrogen, but electrolysis is the most best way we have for now.

Note that when Jeremy Clarkson brags you can run your neighborhood on that car, that does NOT Mean that you would save money to do so. Basic law of physics is that you cannot get more energy out of an energy store than you put into it. In fact you will get less. That is to say it takes MORE electricity to "produce" the hydrogen in the tanks than said hydrogen can produce when catalyzed in the fuel cells.

When I say "produce" hydrogen, I'm actually mean "capture", since hydrogen can't really be produced.

At the end of the day THIS hydrogen car is just an electric, plain and simple.
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Huh?
 
"blue65coupe" said:
Huh?
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IOW, Hydrogen is produced using electricity, so whatever the byproducts of electric production are. Not only that, but it will require MORE electricity to generate the hydrogen, than the hydrogen will be able to produce when it used to drive the car.

Hydrogen has TONS of benefits, but free energy ain't one.
 
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