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At work, we've been battling trying to find out the causal factors for an incident that occurred on our gear during routine maintenance. What happened was that an electronically controlled winch spontaneously ran when it wasn't supposed to do. We immediately downed the gear, brought it back home (Aug. 29), and trouble-shot the incident. Until today, nothing that we did could duplicate the incident. Almost everyone on the team believed it either didn't happen or that a combination of events that was so improbable actually happened. We could not come up with that combination of events.

When testing first began, I (along with other senior engineers) were precluded from being involved in test development or testing, as we were too close to understanding the gear's operation. That kinda pissed me off, but okay...that's the rules.

When testing basically concluded yesterday without any progress, I pointed out an incident that happened immediately prior to the actual winch incident, and that idea needs testing. Basically, the software detected a voltage fault and stopped the winch, requiring a reboot after correction of the problem. When they rebooted, the winch ran unexpectedly. I hypothesized that the voltage fault and how it was handled in software may be the source of our running winch. Nah...we already tested for it, they said. But, did you test it under these conditions? Noooo....so today they did.

And guess what folks? We were able to exactly replicate the winch running incident. And who suggested testing for this? Moi! Yes, I am the Man! Four weeks of testing without looking at the most obvious thing prior to the accident.

The Navy base has ordered building contractors to widen all the doors, as my head cannot clear them as of today. :tigg
 
Navy, that explains it...... When trobleshooting/testing, why not "replicate" the steps prior to the incident..... If there is anything I learned in my 5 years of active duty, it was that much....
 
So... are they looking towards getting an uninterruptable power source (UPS, inverter, etc) to maintain constant power?

I'f so, I know a good firm that could design that for ya :nice
 
"70_Fastback" said:
So... are they looking towards getting an uninterruptable power source (UPS, inverter, etc) to maintain constant power?

I'f so, I know a good firm that could design that for ya :nice

It was an internal DC/DC power converter, not an external power source.
 
"70_Fastback" said:
But why did the DC power fail? And no thoughts, at all, of a uninterruptable source for back-up...?

Most likely because the way they reboot is to cycle the circuit breakers.
 
"70_Fastback" said:
But why did the DC power fail? And no thoughts, at all, of a uninterruptable source for back-up...?

We're looking into the reason for failure: it has to be either the output voltage is too high or too low. This system is used to drive motors, which can backfeed voltage back to the supply if the motors are driven externally not by the actual signals being fed to it (an actual possibility). We're working on a helicopter, so uninterruptable power supplies are not available. We do use capacitors for small power time losses, but the fault is an internal fault of the dc-dc converter, not of the power itself.

The point, however, was that no one considered the implication of this fault with the software running and the resulting state condition that would drive the hydraulic winch.
 
Wow, everything up to "two lesbians fighting" was all just "blah, blah, blah, technical mumbo jumbo"

:naug
 
"AzPete" said:
So.....you did your job and got a big head over that.........damn gov't workers.

Well, at least I earned my pay for the day! :danc
 
Actually I thought it was a good feat and probably a proud moment for you but I had to lower myself to jabbing you--I am truly sorry---nah that is total b.s.---I kind of enjoy jabbing you!---lol :3sum
 
That's OK, Rod...I don't mind.

Not to toot my horn, but I have a reputation with my colleagues, that I am the go-to guy when you can't solve a problem. I really really enjoy these hard nuts to crack, and after 30 years, I haven't failed to solve them. They come around maybe once or twice a year, but when they do, this is where I cut my teeth. This particular problem has probably cost us well over $1M in trouble-shooting over the past month and lost schedule of test flights.

My ability to trouble-shoot pays off here in Mustang-land as well, so I am proud of my abilities to do so. This particular instance was a big deal, one in which the sponsor was about to give up on our team to find the problem. I feel really good about finding the solution in a very short amount of time. It also means I still have the knack! Some of the younger folks on the team (<30 years old) scoff at us old-timers. I hope I put that notion to rest. What's the saying? Old age and wile beats youth and vigor every time? Yeah, baby!

Your not-so-humble civil servant...
Randy
 
&quot;Flysure1&quot; said:
I hope I am getting something for that $$$$$$$ H U G E $$$$$ Government salary of yours. :yikes

You sure are...check your tax return statement next year: I appreciate your donation!
 
&quot;silverblueBP&quot; said:
Wow, everything up to "two lesbians fighting" was all just "blah, blah, blah, technical mumbo jumbo"

:naug

Geez dude. We may just be the two peas. Holy crap.
 
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