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Mystery engine noise *UPDATED*

66gt350

Active Member
Well, I've been trying to track down a mystery noise in the wife's 65 coupe. Here's the history of what I've done and the results:

It all started off with a tickin' noise. It sounded like a loose rocker. I pulled off the valve covers to adjust the valves. Come to find out that the heads are none adjustable. I grabbed my straight edge to check the rocker studs. The driver's side was good, but the passenger side the straight edge rocked a little...so one stud was pulling loose. I have a set of 289 heads on the shelf that has been worked over: ported, polished, larger valves, guide plates, screw in studs, and roller rockers. On a weekend, we did a head swap. Got the engine buttoned up, and cranked up the motor. Tick...tick...tick. no change. We adjusted the valves about 6-8 times to make sure that it wasn't a loose rocker.

The next idea that came to mind was a bad lifter. So, we did a cam/lifter swap. Everything looked good when doing the swap. No obvious problems. Got the new cam/lifters in. And while we were working on it, I had an aluminum water pump we installed and put on a new intake and carb. Again, we buttoned up the engine and fired it up to break in the cam. Shortly after firing it up, again...tick...tick...tick. no change.

I'm starting to run out of ideas. So, I grabbed my poor mans stethoscope, a hardwood dowel, to listen to the motor. There was no noise on either valve cover, water pump, fuel pump. When I placed the dowel on the intake, I could hear the ticking noise. There should be nothing hitting intake. I guess it's time to yank the motor and rip it apart.

This weekend, we yanked the motor. It definitely wasn't an exhaust leak. All of the gaskets were in excellent condition. The valves weren't hitting the piston. The rods and pistons are in good condition. As were all of the rod bearings, they looked practically new. I haven't pulled any main bearing, yet, but there's no movement back and forth in the crank. Inspecting the motor, I've seen no indication of anything hammering. The only things I've noticed was one motor mount on the engine was slightly loose, and my mystery pieces in the pan: Mystery pieces. But those pieces should just be down at the bottom of the pan and not affecting anything...I hope.

This is about to turn me into a raving alcoholic. I've had several people that know engines listen, and they're as stumped as I am. I can't find anything that would make a mechanical ticking noise. I'm at the point of finding a short block and putting that it.
 
Re: Mystery engine noise

Rob,

The only other thing I can think of, did you check the torque / stretch on the rod bolts? Way back before I restored my 66, I had the same type of "lifter tick". Tore the top end apart, replaced the lifters (all hydraulic back then) and ended up with the same tick.

When I started the resto and pulled the motor, I found that a few of the rod bolts were HAND TIGHT. It was only a matter of time before they would have come apart.
 
Re: Mystery engine noise

How about a loose spark plug, which allows a small amount of exhaust to come out? It'll sound just like an exhaust leak tick.
 
Re: Mystery engine noise

I would also look at the flexplate/torque converter, etc. Don't limit your search to where you think you hear the noise. Noises can fool you and travel around.
 
Re: Mystery engine noise

All of the spark plugs were in there nice and tight. I haven't looked at the flex plate, but I'm running a different trans and torque converter since getting the car. and again....different parts and same ole noise.. =^(
 
Re: Mystery engine noise

Is the ticking in time with the engine RPM? Increases in rate with RPM? I assume the answer is yes.

Given you've looked at most mechanical suspects what about electrical? Arcing plug wires can make audible noise. You say you hear it best on the intake what about something distributor related.
 
Re: Mystery engine noise

possible that you got a bad new lifter? Check valve lift with dial indicator to ensure a cam lobe isn't on its way out. Could you tell if it was located near the front or rear of the intake when you used the stethoscope?
 
Well, as I was finally getting the trans back together and cleaning up the shop after last weekend's "impact wrench" incident I looked over at the pistons and this is what I find. Mystery solved. I was starting to go nuts trying to figure out where the noise came from.
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Thankfully you weren't spinning it up and then it comes apart! Good catch.
 
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