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November MM issue "Can they outlaw Mustangs?"

I agree with you Pete. I'm sure there is more to that story. There is already inoperable vehicle legislation and it varies by state. We as gearheads just need to be ready to take a stand for injustice. My case was resolved (sorta) but I keep getting harassed. All my neighbors actually enjoy seeing the projects and they know what I'm capable of doing as they saw the red car evolve. The city (one a-hole) has targeted not just me but others on my street. The law is the law, I would just hate to see it get out of control. I think my state and local laws are reasonable, the issue I had was a lot like a speed trap works. They knew I work on cars a lot and used that for their agenda. (He's running for city counsel) So now he can make claims he is cleaning up the city when actually he just alienated a lot of voters. We'll see on November 2nd. I have been actively campaigning against him. One other example, my neighbor across the street had a tree fall on their house. The branches went thru the roof. They rented a POD type thing to keep their furniture in while the house was repaired. He called the city on them. It was against the law but everyone else knew it was temporary and understood why they were using it. Another neighbor had a dog get loose while they were at work. He had the pound come and get rather than like a good neighbor, catching the dog or calling them.
Anyway, I think the laws are there to protect, not abuse. If the law makers get too much control we can't do anything. That's the only reason I am being an alarmist.
 
10 Worst Bills of the Last Legislative Session

California A.B. 859
Instead of having to undergo a smog check inspection every other year, this bill would require an annual smog check inspections for all cars 15 years old and older. Ironically, the bill would also require that funds generated through the additional inspection fees charged to vehicle owners would then be used to scrap older cars.

Colorado S.B. 95
Current law in Colorado only requires that vehicles from model year 1976 and newer undergo emissions testing. This bill would reset the model year target to include all model year 1959 and newer vehicles, including seldom-driven collector items, for required emissions testing.

Hawaii H.B. 1878
Tort law is seldom codified into state statute, but this bill aims to do just that by creating a cause of action (basis on which an individual can sue another individual) for maintaining an inoperable vehicle on private property. To succeed in such an action, the inoperable vehicle must directly or indirectly "injure" the person bringing the suit, possibly by decreasing their property value.

Michigan H.B. 5897
Michigan historic vehicles owners must pay a registration fee of $30 every ten years to operate on the state's roads. Historic vehicles that use an authentic Michigan license plate from the vehicle's model year are required to pay a one-time registration fee of $35. Under this bill to pad the state coffers, both registration fees would become due annually at a rate of $30 per year. This fee increase ignores the fact that these older cars are driven about one-third the miles each year as a new vehicle.

Nebraska L.B. 688
This bill would expand the definition of "abandoned motor vehicle" to include project cars and trucks that are left unattended for only six hours on private property without valid plates, title or permit, or that are inoperable, partially dismantled, wrecked, junked, or discarded. You heard that correctly! Six hours. In Nebraska, motor vehicles are defined as abandoned for the purpose of allowing state and local authorities to remove them from private property.

New York A.B. 1235
This bill provides that no automotive refinish material labeled "for professional use only" can be sold unless the purchaser demonstrates and meets all local ordinances for the use and application of the material. Bad luck for amateur hobbyists who want to paint their own hobby cars.

New York A.B. 2800
Commonly referred to as "gas-guzzler" legislation, this bill would charge higher toll and registration fees for vehicles based on the vehicle's weight, emissions, and fuel-efficiency ratings. If enacted, a consumer's ability to purchase their vehicle of choice, not to mention vehicle safety, would be dramatic.

Virginia H.B. 462
This bill would ban the sale of "any aftermarket exhaust system component" that would cause the vehicle to produce "excessive or unusual noise." Since no definition exists in Virginia for what qualifies as "excessive or unusual noise," this prohibition would effectively ban the sale of any of these parts, generally purchased for their durability, performance, and appearance.

Washington H.B. 2059
Implementing a vehicle scrappage program, this bill would provide sales tax incentives (for the first $2,000 of tax paid) for trade-in vehicles more than 15-years old that do not comply with emissions standards. All trade-in vehicles would be destroyed, regardless of their historical value or collector interest. Scrappage programs such as these destroy key pieces of America's automotive and industrial heritage, and inhibit restoration projects that rely on these vehicles as a source for parts that are no longer being manufactured.

West Virginia H.B. 3087/S.B. 456
Can operating a vehicle with an exhaust system that may be annoying to some be considered a crime against the state? These West Virginia bills endeavor to include vehicles with exhaust systems deemed disturbing or loud in the definition of "disturbing the peace," a crime that carries a fine of up to $1,000 per occurrence, jail for six months, or both. West Virginia currently has no standard on which to base whether an exhaust system is disturbing or loud and these judgment calls would be left to a law enforcement officer's subjective opinion.
 
and some good bills:

Ohio H.B. 199, New York A.B. 2429/S.B. 3547, New Jersey A.B. 448/S.B. 687 & Massachusetts H.B. 4557
The SEMA street rod and custom model bill seeks to create vehicle registration and titling classifications for street rods and custom vehicles, including kit cars and replicas, and provides for special license plates. These bills define a street rod as an altered vehicle manufactured before 1949 and a custom as an altered vehicle at least 25 years old and manufactured after 1948. Kit cars and replica vehicles would be assigned a certificate of title bearing the same model year designation that the body of the vehicle was constructed to resemble.

Washington S.B. 5246 & Michigan S.B. 590
Crafted after SEMA model legislation to provide for the hobby of collecting and restoring vehicles, these bills prohibit cities or towns from enforcing any restrictions that prevent automobile collectors from pursuing their hobby. Junked, wrecked, or inoperable vehicles (including parts cars) stored on private property would only require screening from public view.

West Virginia H.B. 2775/H.B. 3243/H.B. 4222/H.B. 4575
Recognizing the historical importance of antique vehicles, these West Virginia bills aim to reduce the financial burden placed on antique vehicle owners by reducing the taxes and fees that they must pay on these vehicles.

Vermont S.B. 237
For the purpose of regulating salvage businesses in the state, this bill includes a provision stipulating that hobbyists are not to be confused with the owners of automobile graveyards. It includes a definition of an "automobile hobbyist" as a person not primarily engaged in the sale of vehicles and parts or dismantling junk vehicles and excludes from the definition of an "automobile graveyard" an area used by an automobile hobbyist for storage and restoration purposes.
 
CA tree-hugging lobbyists have been trying to repeal the smog-exempt status of '75 and older cars for years. That bill goes up every year and gets shot down every year. The people that write it don't even know the laws concerning smog checks, they just want to throw something out of left field to show the lobbyists that they're trying.

Technically you can't require smog checks for any car that didn't originally come with smog equipment, which, like I said, is '67 and earlier federal vehicles and '65 and earlier CA-built vehicles. You can't require any car to meet standards that didn't exist at the time of manufacture. Same as seatbelt laws. Many of our cars would be exempt from smog checks, and those that aren't, well, technically they're not exempt from federal law anyway, which prohibits us from modifying existing emissions equipment. And even if you went back and had every one of us alter our cars to meet smog regs, where would you get the air injection setup? It doesn't exist in the aftermarket, as far as I know. So the smog ref would give you a pass on that, at least.
 
Interesting discussion.

How feasible is it for holly to design a carb that works with higher ethanol content? I already have stainless fuel lines, how big a deal would it be to upgrade the fuel system to be compatible? Yes its a PIA, no I don't want to roll over and capitulate, but if the gas isn't available it doesn't matter so might as well mod the car to be able to keep driving it.

BTW, I tore my 78 f-150 apart in military base housing, sandblasted and painted it in my driveway, and out it back together. Took about 2 months. Neighbors thought it was cool.
 
Quick Fuel makes an E85 carb. Many racers are already switching especially if you run boost because it burns cooler. Problem is the pump E85 is not a consistent product and carbs can't adjust like EFI in flex fuel vehicles.
http://www.jegs.com/i/Quick%20Fuel/793/Q-750-E85/10002/-1?CT=999
SS tanks exist too. Just upgrade the rubber and SS lines and tank and a carb like this. You just can't go back to gas with this carb so you need to know where all the stations are that sell E85. There is a local guy who runs a blown 347 92 T-Bird on E85 and loves it but he can't drive it to far away because we don't have a lot of E85 stations around here. It makes good power because it's over 100 octane but you get worse fuel mileage. I've thought of building the Drag Car to run on it because it's cheaper than race fuel.
 
That is the point really....if you cannot drive it, you might as well modify it so you can. Otherwise it will just rot away.

Yep, military housing is so fun. After the VW thing, I restored 2 '64 Chevy pickups and a '65 Impalla SS for my father-in-law and several other cars for friends and myself. Never an issue after I fought back.
 
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