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picked up a new motor today

SELLERSRODSHOP

SELLERSRODSHOP

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i found a 5.0 out of a 96 explorer with 67,000 mi on the odometer. got the whole thing, including all accesories, transmission, wiring harness & computer for $350 & it is the GT40P engine. i should be able to sell off a few things including the tranny & recoup my costs. this yr model has the crank trigger/coil pack ign system like the 4.6/5.4. anybody know if the cam needs to be changed to run a standard type distributor? got some research to do....
 
"apollard" said:
My '96 GT40P block accepted a duraspark dist, no issues. No cam diff that I can see.
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yeah, did a little research tonite & see that the cam positioning sensor has a gear & looks like the bottom of a dizzy. did you have to change the timing cover etc? i'll be losing all of the serpentine setup & going with a simple alternator bracket & will have to change the waterpump to a drivers side inlet.
 
hey nick what yard did you go to grab one? they got any 8.8 rear ends
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thats an awesome deal..too bad it wasn't an AOD behind the 5.0..then that sunbeam will just need to find a 9" to narrow and toss behind...(i know where one is lol)
 
picked it up from a guy who had it on craigslist. the trans is a aod-e/4r70w, which is an electronically controlled aod with a bunch of improvements & better gearing than an early non elec aod ( from what i hear). not going auto in the triumph. all my toys have to have 3 pedals :good...
 
"SELLERSRODSHOP" said:
picked it up from a guy who had it on craigslist. the trans is a aod-e/4r70w, which is an electronically controlled aod with a bunch of improvements & better gearing than an early non elec aod ( from what i hear). not going auto in the triumph. all my toys have to have 3 pedals :good...
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Damn, I have been talking to SWMBO about doing a SBF Triumph Spitfire after the 65 for some time now. I have some of the parts too. I was hoping to be somewhat original.... :cry

Sounds like fun and a good find...

Mel
 
Very cool. I've got one myself, and I ripped off all the distributorless crap and ebay'ed it, along with the accessories, exhaust, wierdo timing cover, and oil pan.

You sure its not a plain old GT40 motor though? Both '96 motors I've had were GT40's and I was always told that they didn't go to the GT40P until 1997.5 or so. The first version of the exploder intake is worth more to mustang guys because it is plumbed for all the mustang sensors in the stock locations.
 
yes, its a "P". has the 4 ribs on the end of the heads & "GTP" casting is there also. upon further inspection, i'm pretty sure it is a 97 vs. 96 model. the computer part number is F7, so unless that was swapped out sometime or another, its a 97 or later engine. got it out of the truck today & removed the tranny, so hope to have it on a stand later this evening to start removing some of the stuff i wont need. if anybody needs anything, let me know. trans is a 4R70W electronic OD.
 
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here's the 4r70w trans that i'll be selling, along with the converter, flexplate & block plate.
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what a score nick..I am going to need to look harder on craigslist now...if I can find one of these I might have to steal your idea...if i am not mistaken, to be able to run that trans in one of ours; you would need to be running fuel injection system, since the trans is controlled by the cpu?
 
"SELLERSRODSHOP" said:
yeah, did a little research tonite & see that the cam positioning sensor has a gear & looks like the bottom of a dizzy. did you have to change the timing cover etc? i'll be losing all of the serpentine setup & going with a simple alternator bracket & will have to change the waterpump to a drivers side inlet.
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Haven't gotten it back together yet. I'll be using the front bits from my 289.
 
"fordrule" said:
what a score nick..I am going to need to look harder on craigslist now...if I can find one of these I might have to steal your idea...if i am not mistaken, to be able to run that trans in one of ours; you would need to be running fuel injection system, since the trans is controlled by the cpu?
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i think some of the vendors are starting to produce "stand alone" controllers so they can be used behind non efi engines. not sure if one is out yet for this one or if a stand alone from an AODE would work. from what i've read, the 4r70w is just an improved version of the AODE.
 
decluttered the engine today & have it mounted on a stand. still need to pull the fuel lines from the rails & pull the balancer & crank trigger wheel.


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awesome find on adapting the 4r70w to a classic without the EFI computer..

nick stop teasing me..congrats on the progress..
 
now i have almost finished up the block "derusting" & cleanup. its time to decide which way i want to go with this thing. i'm trying to decide if i want to keep the EFI on it or switch to a standard carb. i like the idea of the EFI but it's gonna take up alot of funds that could be used elsewhere. i found a good site that shows everything that needs to be changed out from explorer to mustang in order to use an aftermarket harness without all the emission stuff ( A9L computer, distributor, wiring harness etc.) i may need to change out the oil pan & pickup to a shallower mustang pan depending on how low the current explorer pan sits when the engine is installed. i'll also need to change out the timing cover to an early one so i can use the standard rotation water pump (and manual fuel pump if i go carb) as i'll only need an alternator for an accessory, so figure a simple v-belt will be the way to go. i've got a bunch of stuff up on CL right now trying to free up some funds & am planning a pull-a-part trip soon to see what i can find there.

anyone have any opinions on whether i should change the cam? the specs i find for the explorer cam are slightly less than the stock 5.0HO cam with a split pattern.

Intake: .422", Exhaust .448" (measured valve lift)
Intake: 256*, Exhaust 266* (actual duration, NOT at .050")
116* lobe seperation

For comparison, the stock 5.0 HO cam:

Intake: .444", Exhaust .444"
Intake: 266*, Exhaust 266*
unlisted lobe seperation

the thing i'm trying to factor is will this cam be suitable in a car that will barely weight 2000lbs soaking wet with a t-5 & a 3.55-3.70 rear end gear?
 
maybe i missed it, but are you putting this into a mustang?

are you going to have header issues? i only ask because i was just reading about some people having issues finding headers for these.
 
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