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Time to build a fence

KBMWRS

KBMWRS

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Starting tomorrow...tearing down a delapidated fence and building a new one.

Nothing fancy but I'll be building it better than the 'pros' do around here. The California fence seems to be a slatted type that they sit in a up turned channeled 2x4. And that just promotes rot so much that the slats then fall out....of course they are only stapled in.

That and the old posts are also 'in' the ground...more rot.

Mine will have cement post base above ground a couple inches and no rain traps holding up the slats. They will be screwed in to 2x4s.

Now...how do I pay for this?
 
We favor privacy fences down here in Florida, built of cedar wood. The cedar posts are cemented into the ground, but after a few years, they do warp. A neighbor tried a new method, and I've adopted it for a fence gate, but will use it for future fencing. Instead of cedar posts and cross-ties, use galvanized pipe as though you were building a chain-link fence. Instead of chain-link, use the cedar planking by using quality metal screws through the planks into the galvanized cross-pieces. It is quick to install, easy to replace planks when they do rot, and the piping never rots during a realistic life-time.
 
I'm in the process of buying a house and will have to add a fence for the dog. Somewhere between 200 and 400lf of 6'H privacy fence. So far, I've priced it a few ways, but the best made fence I've seen so far was at a fence supplier/installer. They use square steel posts in concrete and then wrap them with cedar. Pickets for the rest. I think it'll run between $25-$30lf (installed). I have installed miles and miles of just about every type of fence and I'm done doing it myself!

Banks are a good place to steal, I mean borrow the money if your gambling has depleted your cash supplies.
 
Hey Mike don't you have kids to help you? I have no choice but to help out. My mom said that is what my brother and I was brought into this world for. To do the manual labor around the house. We do it with no complaints. Learned a long time ago that you never talk back to mom.

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"David67" said:
Hey Mike don't you have kids to help you? I have no choice but to help out. My mom said that is what my brother and I was brought into this world for. To do the manual labor around the house. We do it with no complaints. Learned a long time ago that you never talk back to mom.

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There's a whole lotta truth in that..ask my kids! Man I was upset when they finally moved out. I had to start mowing the lawn again and the wife to start doing the dishes and laundry again! Nothing like good old fashioned indentured servants!
 
I have build a few fences here at my home and most recent at my rental house. I have been using midlife's method using 2 3/8 galvanized pipe. For a 6 foot high fence 7 foot poles worked for me with 8 foot at the ends or corners. I think I used 50 pound bags of concrete Mix with one bag per pole. I also did the end poles first and let them set for a day, the next day I ran a string at the bottom and pulled it tight. Every 8 feet is where I would dig a post hole, less is ok, more than 8 is not. Drop your pole in the hole and add the mud and your pole is touching one side of the string and level it of course. Now if you are really good run a string at the top so that your poles are the same height. I do not worry so much about that, just so they are below 6 feet. My last fence is nice and straight except for the pole height. But all of the poles are on the other side and I do not see them. Redwood or cedar is the way to go also. When it is time for the planks to go up you will need 2 small nails. Lay one on the top and bottom of each 2x4 and use them as a spacer between each plank. Every few you might want to see if your plank is level. 1 5/8 drywall type screws to attach the planks to the 2x4's.

Oh have fun picking out your wood.

fd
 
"Ponyman66" said:
There's a whole lotta truth in that..ask my kids! Man I was upset when they finally moved out. I had to start mowing the lawn again and the wife to start doing the dishes and laundry again! Nothing like good old fashioned indentured servants!
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I haven't lived at home in about 7 years. I still have no choice!!!! It will never end. Even if I moved far away. When I come visit, there will be a list and I'll suck it up and do it.
 
"David67" said:
"Ponyman66" said:
There's a whole lotta truth in that..ask my kids! Man I was upset when they finally moved out. I had to start mowing the lawn again and the wife to start doing the dishes and laundry again! Nothing like good old fashioned indentured servants!
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I haven't lived at home in about 7 years. I still have no choice!!!! It will never end. Even if I moved far away. When I come visit, there will be a list and I'll suck it up and do it.
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You too eh!

When I visit parents and out-laws, they both have lists for me. Hell, even SIL's have lists.
 
"silverblueBP" said:
"David67" said:
"Ponyman66" said:
There's a whole lotta truth in that..ask my kids! Man I was upset when they finally moved out. I had to start mowing the lawn again and the wife to start doing the dishes and laundry again! Nothing like good old fashioned indentured servants!
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I haven't lived at home in about 7 years. I still have no choice!!!! It will never end. Even if I moved far away. When I come visit, there will be a list and I'll suck it up and do it.
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You too eh!

When I visit parents and out-laws, they both have lists for me. Hell, even SIL's have lists.
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That must be why you keep moving further away.
 
I've done about 5 sides of fences in my life. What works here best is slump stone. It doesn't rot near as fast as wood.

Another thing they're doing here in socal is galvanized steel pipe posts with brackets to hold 2x4's between them, then cedar planks (not for cooking, Craig) between the posts. The Cedar planks cover the posts so you only see wood.

Good luck with your project, Mikey.

I too have used galvanized steel post mounts, like this in concrete.

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Mikey, you have a circular saw? post hole digger? shovel? plum line string? - Wow, I'm impressed. I'd come down and help but I have to go fishing tomorrow and smoke cheese on Sunday.
 
I must be missing something here. In the Midwest where we have all four seasons (lots of water and frost heave) I would think we know how to install a fence. The best looking, I think, are wood. Metal and plastic just don't seem to look right unless you have an ultra-modern style home. I do like the aluminum style made to look like the old wrought iron of yesteryear, though.

Anyway, the key to setting a wooden post in the ground is to dig deep enough to get below the frost line and have enough drainage around the post to prevent standing water. Dig your holes, pour in enough stone for a good base drop in the post, dump in dry set mix and add water. I used 6x6 cedar posts. They'll last an easy 15-20 years minimum if done this way. My current fence is almost 13 years old and other than "greying out" (I prefer the look on cedar fences) the fence and posts are as good as the day installed.

Most fence failures are due to poor installation. Doesn't matter is you use wood or metal, if you put the posts in improperly and have poor drainage you will have premature decay of the posts. I've seen plenty of galvanized posts break off at the ground were they had been placed in cement that allowed water to pool against the posts.
 
What is a frost line? Mikey doesn't know either...... where he lives
 
"jims6t6" said:
"opentrackerSteve" said:
What is a frost line? Mikey doesn't know either...... where he lives
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But he has to watch out for the fault line.
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Nah, it'll just bend like this wall here in Hollister:

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Frank
 
Fences? WE don't need no stinkin fences!!

Open neighborhood - leaves room for the wildlife (turkeys and deer) to roam. Here the neighbors all get along and we like each other. Of course being separated by over 1 acre helps also.
 
Fences are for Californians. The only people in our neighborhood with full fence are from Cali or Nevada.

However because of the Utard that shot my dog, we will have to put in a fence now....Yuk!

Mel
 
IMO, if you have pets that go outdoors, you SHOULD have a fenced area. I had my back yard fenced even when my closest neighbor was a mile away. Free roaming is a sure way to get them killed.
 
"silverblueBP" said:
IMO, if you have pets that go outdoors, you SHOULD have a fenced area. I had my back yard fenced even when my closest neighbor was a mile away. Free roaming is a sure way to get them killed.
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Or simply lost. Not every "stray" people find and keep is an actual stray.
 
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