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Trouble and the Trailer

Laurie S.

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Trouble strikes again. I picked up a winch (3,000 lb. rating), hooked it to the D-rings in the trailer, and got the 12V battery out of Murphy. The first hint of Trouble was when we discovered that the trailer battery that we were going to use was dead. Guess I better not have a break-away. Anyway, we were doing a straightline pull and Trouble was smoothly going up the ramp. We were following the instructions, winching for a minute and then giving it a rest. It was going okay. Then, we noticed the winch was pulling verrrrryyyy sllllllowwwwyyyy. And then it stopped...with Trouble sitting at the top of the ramp, nose up in the air.

We couldn't unhook my truck to bring it around to try and switch batteries and didn't want to risk draining the truck batteries since we had to head out at 5 am. Oh yeah, it was 10 pm by this time. The neighbor across the street brought his car over to see if we could jump the winch off his battery. Nope, it didn't work.

Thank God for AAA. I called and almost an hour later, the tow truck showed up and we had a great driver. I hadn't told the dispatcher what the problem was, figuring she might not send help. I just said we had a dead car and needed to get it in the trailer. So, we tried jumping off the tow truck and still nothing from the winch. We figured we had burned it out.

Then, the tow truck driver said he could lift Trouble's rear wheels in the air and then we could roll the car into the trailer. Sounded good to us. Problem was that once he lifted the rear wheels, there was a 1-foot drop before the car would hit the trailer ramp. So, we started putting some boards under there and it still wasn't working. Finally, the driver got it in a position and said we need some plywood or something to make another ramp. Oh yay! I have ramps! We placed the ramps in front of the rear wheels and gave Trouble a push. The car flew into the trailer, didn't hit anything, and I started breathing again. The gas tank did get some paint scraped off but nothing was dented or broken, and I gave the driver $20. We finished loading up at midnight.

Today, we discovered why the winch stopped working. The cable didn't spool properly as it was winding up and it jammed. No battery in the world would have worked. Sigh......
 
The instructions with the winch should have told you to payout the cable and wind it back on the hub under a slight load checking for smooth coiling wraps before using it to pull.
Most drums are spool loaded when assembled, If you dont preload the cable, As it tightens up it will draw downward into the lower wraps and not allow it to coil across the spool when winding under a heavy load.
 
"Laurie S." said:
Today, we discovered why the winch stopped working. The cable didn't spool properly as it was winding up and it jammed. No battery in the world would have worked. Sigh......

I'm glad it wasn't that Harbor Freight winch that I recommended crapping out on the first use :vic
 
Also, if you are not pulling straight, you may have to help the cable spool up correctly. Real pain but it can be done.
 
"Mach1Rider" said:
The instructions with the winch should have told you to payout the cable and wind it back on the hub under a slight load checking for smooth coiling wraps before using it to pull.
Most drums are spool loaded when assembled, If you dont preload the cable, As it tightens up it will draw downward into the lower wraps and not allow it to coil across the spool when winding under a heavy load.

I wasn't the one reading the instructions. I think I'll have a chat with my helper. :sur
 
I have to take my trailer in for its annual maintenance before I head to the Oklahoma National Show in June, so I'm going to have them check out the winch (yeah, it's Harbor Freight) and mount it within the cabinet permanently. I also have a battery box and will get that mounted somewhere. In the meantime, I'll replace the trailer emergency brake battery. I had it checked last year and it was fine but another year apparently killed it.
 
On that brake battery, most of them charge only when the trailer lights are on while driving. That has been how the past four of them I had were wired from the factory. I had problems with the charge getting low if I did not drive at night...... I rewired them with a key on hot wire from the truck and that made a big difference. I used the 7 pin connectors.
 
Thanks Pete, that's good to know. It is the original battery and I bought the trailer in 2001 so it's probably time for a change. I'll get it checked out and see what is needed. I rarely have the trailer lights on because I avoid driving at night as much as possible. And, you know what Arizona desert heat does to batteries.
 
If I recall correctly from my vehicle recover days, the capacity rating of a winch is calculated with an empty drum; meaning less than one full wrap of the cable. Each subsequent wrap reduces the winches capacity; so, a 5k lb winch, will pull 5k, only to the end of the first wrap of cable. The way you retain, regain, or increase pulling capacity is by mechanical advantage, with pulleys, snatch-blocks, etc…

For what it’s worth…
 
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