Water pump/alt bracket ?

[AzPete]

I think I have finally decided to convert back to the V belt setup. My current water pump rotates properly. The rad. hose is on the drivers side. Where I see a problem is it does not look like the standard top alt. bracket will fit to the bottom mounting bolt. Also, the same problem with the mounting for the adjustment bracket.

Those two mounting points are set deeper into the current pump and not on a boss to put them at a level for the classic brackets.

At this point, I could care less about the timing marks either.

Solutions????

***What new pump will have the drivers side hose AND the old 289 style alt. mounting capabilities?

or

***Could I use a spacer and a longer bolt to get a mounting point on the current pump out to where it needs to be for the classic pulleys?

I hope the line I have on all the pulleys and brackets to convert to V belt. including a 4 bolt crank pulley will line up

I really don't want to go to the pricey after market setups as I believe this can be done. I just need the year parts........

It is an '82 F150 302 with the wrong pulley on the fan now.

 

[Jonk67]

Hi, from a quick check of an online parts catalog (rockauto) it looks like the '70 was the first year of the drivers side exit for a 302 Mustang and that part # was the same until '73 most all size fords. I would call a couple of local parts stores and see if they have a few years in stock starting with '70, they should be able to tell each year that it changed part # pretty easily and pull those off the shelf for reference.
Here's a pic of my brackets off my '67 if it helps any, I have PS.

Jon

 

[buening]

1970 was indeed the first year to put the hose on the drivers side. The problem is the 70+ alternator brackets are different than pre-70. Is the issue that you cannot adjust the belt for the classic alternator using the newer style alternator brackets? As far as depth, use shims and/or spacers to get the pulley alignment correct.

 

[AzPete]

To go to the 70's setup, I am missing the tall bolt mounting location for the lower mount bolt of the triangle bracket. That means new pump and then the correct dia. pulleys and such.

If I stay with the serp. that is started, I still need a pump (reverse flow), but the pulleys are here so I will do that.

 

[buening]

The alternator bracket that bolts to the head (triangular) is also a 70 and later piece. The earlier ones were Tee shaped IIRC and those are available in reproduction.

 

[AzPete]

The several 70's and later I looked at had a similar looking triangle bracket on the water pump to alt mount with the slide adjustment mounted on the same bolt as the one my pump is missing. It will be much simpler to just stay serp. for what I have to start with now.

 

[buening]

I know you said you want to go with serpentine, but for other's searching this is a picture of my 70 351w. You can kind of see the triangular alternator bracket bolted to the head. The left and right bolt attaches the bracket to the head, the top bolt is for the dipstick, and the bottom right bolt is for the long alternator bolt. Not shown in the pic is the lower alternator bracket swing-arm that adjusts the tension in the belt. One bolt goes to the alternator and the other end of the bracket bolts to the bottom bolt hole of the black triangular alternator bracket shown in the picture. I'm not sure if the swing-arm bracket is 70-later, but the black triangular bracket and the head bracket are 70-later.

 

[AzPete]

I see what you are saying. The other thing I found in looking at all the differences was that all the cars that had A/C had it's belt running to the crank and power steering with an idler pulley above the water pump. Looked like a lot of extra for sure.

 

[buening]

Yeah you end up with 3 belts. I haven't gotten around to it yet, but I plan on running my Sanden compressor on the same belt as the alternator. This eliminates the idler pulley because you can adjust the belt tension with the alternator. I had to go with a late model 90° water neck and still have a few things to deal with.

 

[AzPete]

Yep, just tons of fun for sure.