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2017 Shelby Super Snake

Discussion in 'General Mustang Discussion' started by Roy & Gail's 67 Fastback, Feb 11, 2017.

  1. Anybody out there own a Super Snake? Thinking of buy a 2017 from Shelby America. Is it a good investment or a just another Mustang in 5 years. I have a 67 Fastback we love to drive, looking for something new. The Super Snake is one bad ass pony, we are going to Vegas this month to tour shop and talk to the Shelby people.
     
  2. 3175375

    3175375 Well-Known Member

    Looks like fun n appears to be reasonable price-wise
     
  3. KBMWRS

    KBMWRS What did the moron say today?

    Dang there was a guy in the East SF bay area who is heavily into Mustangs. Had a '69 Concour redone by Mustang Plus. He bought a SS from Shelby in Vegas a few years ago (10?). Be prepared to take back ALL the parts they take off the Mustang you provide. He had a trailer full. I'm guessing they offer up a complete car without you providing one.

    Side story...he took the SS back for a check up with a signed dash that he had Carroll sign. Well while it was in the shop a dutiful worker decided to clean his dash for him...with a cleaning solution. Yeah you guessed it. It smeared over Shelby's sig. It was still there but looked exactly like what happened...someone smeared it over.
     
  4. B67FSTB

    B67FSTB The NorCal dude from Belgium

    Ouch !!!

    Like most things in America , if they made just a few of it , IOW rare , then its worth to buy and keep it for an investment.
    Don't know how many SuperSnakes they will built.
     
  5. Horseplay

    Horseplay Well-Known Member

    I suggest you check out the sales history of them at the large auction sites. I never followed the Snakes myself but I seem to recall one just sold at the latest B&J auction and seems to me it didn't do as well as expected. I don't think one buys one for an investment. I would do some serious research if that was the main goal.
     
  6. KBMWRS

    KBMWRS What did the moron say today?

    Shelby as an investment goes down exponentially from the year he stopped making them....1968
     
  7. RagTop

    RagTop Old Grumpy

    Wow, the idea that the Shelby Super Snake is a reasonable price sort of blew me away. I was on the drive back to Birmingham, AL with Mustangs Across America in 2009 and the west coast rally point was Las Vegas, which included a tour of the Shelby facility. At the time a Shelby GT-500 was selling for around $50K. The shop was three rows of lifts deep and amazingly wide, maybe ten or more work stations, and it was fully occupied. When I asked the guide how many were Super Snakes, he said "all of them". The deal was the buyer of a GT-500 would turn it over to Shelby to make it into a Super Snake for an additional $50K. Seemed kind of steep to me at the time, but maybe they've changed their pricing formula.

    Tying back to the story about the guy trying to clean off the writing on the glove compartment door, I was parked next to a gorgeous '67 GT-500 at a Mustangs Plus show. The car was my dream car. Dark metallic blue with a black interior. I complemented the guy on his car and he said "Yeah, it's nearly perfect but some idiot wrote all over the glove compartment door with a paint stick." It was a Carroll Shelby signature of course and he was just kidding.
     
  8. RagTop

    RagTop Old Grumpy

    I think the last Shelbys built by Shelby in his SoCal plant were the '67s. In '68 Ford took over the program and had the cars built by A.O. Smith. There were just two models built by A.O. Smith. The '68 and the '69. The '70 Shelbys were just remaining '69 inventory.
     
  9. KBMWRS

    KBMWRS What did the moron say today?


    Yes that's what I was implying...he didn't make the '68s
     
  10. B67FSTB

    B67FSTB The NorCal dude from Belgium

  11. Wj Brown

    Wj Brown Member

    Super Snakes used to be built using a GT500 as a starting point.
    With no current GT500 to start with, SA is making Super Snakes out of regular GTs.
    Not as valuable in my mind!
     
  12. Mach1Mark

    Mach1Mark Ramrod extraordinaire Donator

    Not sure why you think this . . . when Shelby American converts your GT into a GT500 Super Snake, its becomes a real Shelby by default. It is recognized as a real Shelby vehicle by the SAAC registry and by everyone in the hobby.
     
  13. JeffTepper

    JeffTepper Well-Known Member

    Ken:

    You post reminds me of a woman who was complaining that the previous owner of her Explorer who had embroidered his name on the front seats........."Eddie Bauer" !
     
  14. Wj Brown

    Wj Brown Member

    I'm just stating the fact that Super Snakes used to start out as a Shelby GT500 and were then upgraded to SS status. That's one advantage that Shelby had over Roush and Saleen's specialty cars. Their starting point was a Mustang GT while Shelby Super Snakes started life as a Shelby.
    I'm not saying that the final product isn't a real Shelby SS, it certainly is. Just that it started out with a more common platform, a regular production Mustang instead of an SVT product.
     
  15. Mach1Mark

    Mach1Mark Ramrod extraordinaire Donator

    Point of order: the 1965-67 GT350's and GT500's ALL started life as a Mustang with a V8, were then were shipped to the Shelby American factory to be converted into a Shelby. More to the Point: the original and only 1967 GT500 Super Snake WAS exactly that, a Mustang first and then a GT500 built by Shelby. And if you read the recent press release from Shelby American, they announce the 2017 Super Snake production number and pricing. The list is broken down into owner-provided 2017 Mustang GT of if you buy the complete Mustang GT upgraded to GT500 SS status from Shelby American. Since Shelby returned to building Shelby Mustangs they don't build the entire car in their facility, they receive shipments of new Mustang GT's (like the old days) from Ford and convert them into GT500's. This also happened with the 2010-13 GT350 production. Unless you're talking strictly about the 2007-14 GT500 which WAS produced by Ford at their Flat Rock factory. The GT500 built at Flat Rock was engineered by SVT (using the production Mustang as a basis) and built on the same line as the Mustang GT and V6 models. There was no special/separate GT500 production line at Flat Rock. Still not sure what fact you are trying to make.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2017
  16. Wj Brown

    Wj Brown Member

    First of all, I didn't intend to start any kind of controversy and certainly didn't want to ruffle anyone's feathers. I am just stating my opinion.
    Specifically about late model (2007 and up) Shelby Super Snakes, which is what the OP asked about.
    Late model Super Snakes have always started out as Shelby GT500s. That is until the end of GT500 production in the 2014 MY. After that Shelby started making Super Snakes out of Mustang GTs.
    You seem to know your stuff about Mustangs and Shelbys so I'm sure you know that late model GT500s came with a unique, niche line produced, engine and different trans (along with many other drive line, interior and exterior parts) that were not available in any other Mustang. That's what Shelby used to use as the starting platform for a Super Snake.
    In MY opinion Shelby has watered down the late model Super Snake line by not starting out with a Shelby branded car.
    Are the new cars Super Snakes? Absolutely! As you pointed out. And they are fantastic cars!
    But, in MY opinion they will not hold their value as well as the 2007-2014 Super Snakes, (OP asked about future value).
    However, the number of times I've been wrong outnumber the times I've been right so please take that into consideration.
    OP, spending some time on the late model Shelby sites and forums may give you some more focused information/opinions.
     
  17. RagTop

    RagTop Old Grumpy

    Yeah, he even got those plaques made for the rocker panels.;) I actually knew a guy who had a 67-68 fastback as his first car and spent a huge amount of time trying to get that unsightly crease out of the middle of the trunk lid. Said he finally achieved his objective using lots of sanding and Bondo. At the time he had no idea it was a design feature. Good thing he never got to the roof.:rolleyes:

    BTW, my vote is that all Super Snakes are created equal except for the f'ing rattlers we get up here in the summer.
     

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