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69 Chevelle?

"Horseplay" said:
A clearer picture can be painted by asking how many of your peers died, etc. at a young age because they didn't...fill in the blank.
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Actually even that's not true. There are several ways to view the statistics, deaths per hundred million miles traveled, deaths per 100,000 people, etc etc. etc.

With the increase in safety, there's an overall picture painted that things must have been HORRIBLE way back before. That's not the case. People walked away from bad wrecks back then, too. And it's not like it was bumpercars, with people wrecking left and right. You might have 1 serious accident in your lifetime. The question is, in those serious accidents, how much more likely are you to avoid serious accident and injury.

Sheldon mentioned his mom's olds with 2 point seatbelts. That's what my mom drove too! Olds Station wagon with 2 point seatbelts in the back. Hey I lived just fine. Oh, also, my mom's car was never in a serious accident...so, for all intents and purposes, the seatbelts were irrelevant. It coulda had old ropes tied to the seat springs, for all they mattered.

Per capita serious accidents are very very rare. And even old cars it wasn't like any serious accident and you were going to die, no question...But I simply reject the notion that when that serious accident *DOES* happen, that a modern car is not a safer place to be. A safer place to put your kids. And I think it's got more to do with overall safety design, than JUST pinning it on "Seatbelts and airbags"
 
I plan to help my son build his first car and it will be a 60's era muscle. I'll make it as safe as possible.
Bill
 
I kind of agree about the safety factor of an older car. Not sure I would make a classic a daily driver for a teen just learning to drive. :steer

As far as the 4 door chevelle, it could be a cool car even though it's a chebby.
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Me personally...I believe the Man upstairs has your days numbered before you were born and when it's your time it's simply your time.

I do know of one person through the years killed in a car wreck that I knew personally. She lived up the street when I was about 12 years old. I remember playing with legos in the living room one Saturday morning when my Mom got a call saying she and another girl I knew were killed. They were probably eight or nine years older than me.

Honestly though seat belts or not would not have mattered in that case. They had one of the old pickups with the saddle tank gas tank. Some guys were hauling bleep (while drunk) down the parkway and T-boned them when they were pulling out to turn right at a light. They were a ball of flames before they landed in the brush line on the side of the road. I can remember driving past and seeing the burned up spot in the bushes....took it a while to grow back after that kind of fire.
 
That's what it looks like! almost.
I'm pretty sure my son will end up with a Muscle car too. I think the points are well made that newer cars have been designed with the aid of computer models and crash testing to show where they need to absorb shock and crumple. Even airbags and seat belts won't take all the shock that a well designed crumple zone can absorb. I also agree that a teen is more likely to crash, than a more experienced driver. Certainly we all wish our kids the best chance of survival and would never intentionally jeopardize their safety.
I'm torn on this subject as I know in my heart that a 99 Civic with a fart can would be a much safer car than a 69 Chevelle. I also know when your a kid and you want something real bad, your gonna figure out a way to get it. I don't see my boy driving a late model ricer. Maybe he is just doomed because of my passion for old cars but we will make an educated choice and I do thank you all for your input. There are still options, if he insists on a Muscle car, like Bill, we will make it as safe as possible. In the event he would suffer in a bad crash, that will always be something we will live with. No guarantees that a new car will save your life either. I mentioned earlier that I didn't know anyone who died in a car crash but I do recall a friend's wife died in a late model car. It was a roll over accident and she died of head injuries. Her daughter was driving and she survived. Would she have also died if it were an old car? I don't know. This is a difficult thing to answer. I don't know if I believe in fate but I don't want to test it!
 
"RustyRed" said:
Me personally...I believe the Man upstairs has your days numbered before you were born and when it's your time it's simply your time.
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Then why do you bother with gun safety? Why bother with medicine? If one of your loved ones were hurt, would you PRAY first, or call 911 first? Which is your FIRST instinct?

Honestly though seat belts or not would not have mattered in that case. They had one of the old pickups with the saddle tank gas tank. Some guys were hauling bleep (while drunk) down the parkway and T-boned them when they were pulling out to turn right at a light. They were a ball of flames before they landed in the brush line on the side of the road. I can remember driving past and seeing the burned up spot in the bushes....took it a while to grow back after that kind of fire.
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So it wasn't seat belts, it was another unsafe situation, which has been fixed on newer trucks.

As I said, it ain't just seat belts and airbags that make today's cars safer.

Steve
 
I'm of the "it's amazing any of us survived" mindset also but let me put something else to you. When we were 16, how many drivers meeting us head on had access to a cell phone? This day and age I don't think it's so much about "I didn't have it" as it is "they didn't have it".
 
"blue65coupe" said:
I'm of the "it's amazing any of us survived" mindset also but let me put something else to you. When we were 16, how many drivers meeting us head on had access to a cell phone? This day and age I don't think it's so much about "I didn't have it" as it is "they didn't have it".
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I'll agree that there are more distractions.
Bill
 
Since I have nothing of importance to add......


I run with knives, scissors and forks. Purposely do things that end up in visits to the ER. Keep loaded weapons in all rooms of my house and generally don't take safety into account before doing most activities. I do admit to adding a cage, race seats and 6pt harnesses to the 66, but not necessarily for "safety", but more for rigidity and containment for better feel of the car. Just don't tell SWMBO that!

Panzies.



I will add that if your thing is safety, then by all means add it into everything you do. I'll still laugh at you if you ride a bicycle with one of those gay helmets. I like my multiple TBI's, it's sooo much easier to let others remember for you.
 
my original plan was to hand down the 01 F150 4x4 to him when the time came. He was okay with that. It has airbags but I doubt it's much safer than any other full frame vehicle. I don't think it has crumple zones. But it's not what he wants. Part of having a "cool" car is just that, being cool. He is already talking about when he can drive on the Power Tour and cruise nights and so forth. I remember being 14 and bugging my dad to let me buy every cool car I came across. If we get this or any other car it will be more than a car. It will be just like I was with my dad, a way to bond.
 
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"70 StangMan" said:
That's how you should start all of your responses.
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+1 :stu


Also how do you pronounce chevelle?

I pronounce it shovel \ˈshə-vəl\ :roll

fd
 
Nothing wrong with him wanting a cool car for cruises and stuff.
I plan on letting my daughter have a classic when she's old enough. If she has any interest. It just won't her DD. That's a long way out though.

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"tarafied1" said:
If we get this or any other car it will be more than a car. It will be just like I was with my dad, a way to bond.
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That's what I'm after. Also, if he invests his time and money into it, it will go a long way into building respect for a car instead of another thing mom or dad bought him.
Bill
 
"RapidRabbit" said:
Nothing wrong with him wanting a cool car for cruises and stuff.
I plan on letting my daughter have a classic when she's old enough. If she has any interest. It just won't her DD. That's a long way out though.

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That's a long way out? Be here before you know it.

Seems like just yesterday my daughter was in elementary school. Here she is with her/(family) new used car.

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