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Threshold braking in a non ABS old car is Da Bomb! Especially when you get to do it a dozen times a lap :thu
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New or newer cars vs classic or older cars???
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Ponyman66
Yak, yak, yak
Ironically enough, this is the very topic myself and a close life long friend were talking about just a week ago! I asked him if he'd every been in a Prius? I had to move one from the roadway a month or so back. After only having to drive it a few feet, that's all I wanted to! The thing made no noise! After pressing on the accelerator, the only way I knew something was happening is because I could see the car was moving. This brought up my comments about how people no longer have cars. They have their living room on four wheels! It seems most people find driving is a distraction when they get in the car to go somewhere. They're more concerned with getting a heated massage while watching a video and texting their friends and having their car TELL them what to do! :wtf When it all goes to crap, they don't have a clue how to react or could even tell you what happened. Older cars make you work a little. But you also develop (basic!) driving skills that become instinctual. The day will come when, due to the lazy idiot masses, our modern "cars" will be nothing more than a transport pod you climb in, tell it where you want to go and climb out upon arriving. Obviously a topic I'm a little passionate about! Rant over! :rant
BTW, that friend? The same guy that would ride in the passenger seat of my car when we were teens in a (rare) icy parking lot. Just for kicks he grab the e-brake handle and see if I could control the skid. We'd also intentionally throw our cars into a skid just to see who could keep control. We thought we were just having fun. Little did we realize we were developing skills too (that would have taken the fun out of it! LOL).
BTW, that friend? The same guy that would ride in the passenger seat of my car when we were teens in a (rare) icy parking lot. Just for kicks he grab the e-brake handle and see if I could control the skid. We'd also intentionally throw our cars into a skid just to see who could keep control. We thought we were just having fun. Little did we realize we were developing skills too (that would have taken the fun out of it! LOL).
Sluggo
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Working at a new car dealership, I'm exposed to all this technology. New cars are pretty friggin' amazing. We have some cars that have in excess of 30 computers. More acronyms for local area networks than you can shake a stick at.
I have vehicles that from three different decades and each has it's pros and cons.
It's pretty tough for me to make the call which one I enjoy more. If pressed to make a decision I'd probably go with the 08 GT. There's just something comforting about knowing you will make it to your destination without rebuilding your car along the way.
There's also that reassurance if you get in an accident, you're highly likely to survive with little or no injury. As much as I like the 69, I'd hate to be in it during a 35-40 mph collision.
I have vehicles that from three different decades and each has it's pros and cons.
It's pretty tough for me to make the call which one I enjoy more. If pressed to make a decision I'd probably go with the 08 GT. There's just something comforting about knowing you will make it to your destination without rebuilding your car along the way.
There's also that reassurance if you get in an accident, you're highly likely to survive with little or no injury. As much as I like the 69, I'd hate to be in it during a 35-40 mph collision.
tarafied1
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don't get me wrong, I'm not against technology. I just wonder if it makes us worse drivers. For example, I have seen people reading the newspaper while driving. I dare ya to do that while your driving my 67! While driving my Taurus I could probably climb into the backseat and make sandwitch then take a nap, in fact I think I have seen people do that :steer
And :Mark knows all about Da Bomb."silverblueBP" said:
AzPete
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Not just cars technology, but society has allowed us to become worse drivers. Becoming so fast paced has made people into multi tasking types with lack of caring because they all think they can do it all at once.....
dodgestang
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Modern cars have some cool stuff...for instance on my wife's new car I push a button and say the NAME of a satellite station I want to listen to and BAM the radio changes stations and puts it on.......this is in a FREAKING JEEP WRANGLER.... :wtf
We can not stop technology, there will always be classic restored cars in "our" lifetime--(those over 50 ish) we all drove drum brakes-three on the tree-trucks with granny gear 4 speeds --armstrong steering--I wish I could look into the future 110 years (ballpark age of automobiles). I would be surprised if I would recognize anything that resembles today's cars--look at the changes we have seen in just the last 40 years---we are seeing the beginning of an era of alternate fuel sources, whatever it might be--might be something we have not even seen yet--when we were kids did we even think we would see a battery car in production from a major manufacturer---sure we heard of electric cars, mostly in popular science. I imagine it will be like I see now---the old cars--(model t's and a's era) are getting less collectable/valuable, I think because that generation of adults are dying off or at the age they are unable to participate in the hobby, there is still some 40-50 years cars in demand but once again I think it is slowing down because of age---the muscle cars -(60's to 70's were our era and interest us the most---our grandkids or possibly great grandkids might be the last generation to restore old cars that resemble cars as we know them. Just my thoughts.
Jonk67
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"Ponyman66" said:
I forgot about that, we used to do that in dry, wet, anytime away from other drivers. The passenger would yell 'contact' and yank the emergency brake to full lock and you'd have to control the car with the rear brakes locked. That came in handy for all the times I locked the brakes in any kind of turn or large object avoidance on the hwy.
We also practiced pulling a 180* while working at a drive in. Get going in reverse, hit the E brake, spin the wheel, release brake, drop in D and punch it. That happened mostly in a ~'73 Cutlass S and the trans never went out. Man that was fun and more so as it was not my car
bjJon
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It's people like that, who ride your tail, that really tick me off. Haven't they ever heard of the 2 second rule? :shrug I love teaching those people lessons and doing brake checks just hoping they ram into the back of my '03 GT so I can get a new bumper. One that says Mustang GT, not just Mustang. Or the asshats who pull out in front of you when you're doing 40+mph. If my reflexes weren't so fast, I would have had a new front bumper several times by now. I have my eyes on a couple styles I'd rather have than the stock look.
Luckily when I was driving Gertrude, not many rode her tail. I think they were too scared a chunk of rust might fly off of her or something. LOL I've already joked with the husband about it... putting a switch to turn on brake lights in Gertrude at will without ever having to touch the brakes. Trailer brakes. So when some jerk starts riding on her tail, flip the switch and watch them slam on their brakes all while my foot is still on the gas pedal.
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I've never understood the disdain for tailgaters. Maybe it's from all the drafting we did as young-uns. It's never bothered me when other drivers follow too closely. Hell, it's only a car and you're gonna die sometime.
I kinda cringe with the though of finishing mine and my wife taking it out for a spin. She's never driven anything with manual brakes let alone steering. It's one of the reasons I'm looking at Rod and Custom rack conversion and power brakes(car had drums on all four). Not to mention a lesson on how to stay a set distance from the car in front of you. I got really scared a couple of weeks ago when one of my neighbors asked if I wanted to take a ride to the landfill in his dump truck. we going along and theres a woman in a Honda with a bowl of cereal in her lap.She was driving with her knees. Makes you wonder why this person isn't planted in the ground yet. My friend said this is why he no longer has his Harley. Theres to many distractions anymore when people get behind the wheel.
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So, you're saying you don't want anyone on yer rear?
Fast68back
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OK, I read the original post, then scanned thru the rest, WTF is the picture of the '66?
tarafied1
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I didn't have my camera... but I know where he lives now so I will try to get a picture for ya. It's a survivor unrestored 66 4 door fairlane. All original and in very good shape. He says he has a Pinto with a 428 in it and a 2 door 62 Fairlane also. I'm anxious to go see 'em.
tarafied1
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That's exactly my point, if the lady with cereal tried that in a manual steering drum brake car she simply couldn't steer with her knees and work the brakes so she just wouldn't do it. But because modern cars are so easy to drive it is possible to not really focus on "driving" IMO. AGain I'm not against modern, safe and comfortable cars just what it is doing to the next generation..."KTJMcG" said:
My wife didn't like driving my Big block non-PS, non-PB no AC 67 at first but after a few long hauls, she got used to and actually has taken it out when I'm not home. She is 8 years younger than me and never drove a stick or any older car, and not any kind of performance cars. I taught her to drive a stick in my 85 GT. Now she is a gear head like me!
Hey now... give the wives more credit! :char I never driven anything but modern cars, then I got Gertrude who had no power anything, drum brakes, crappy steering, bump steer that scared the crap out of me driving 60mph down the highway, and I did fine. art Although my knuckles were white as snow from my grip on the wheel. LOL
art Although my knuckles were white as snow from my grip on the wheel. LOL
I know I am guilty of being a tailgater pretty much all the time. Now if the idiots in front of me would either speed up or change lanes there would be no more tailgating!"Kats66Pny" said:
Seriously, I am nearly always stuck behind some woman chatting on her cell who obviously would have trouble driving even without the damn phone. Or someone from another country, new to the U.S., who hasn't mastered the conversion from reins to steering wheel. Such is the challenge of driving in Chicago.