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Question for the International StangFixers

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AtlantaSteve

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as you know, Sluggo is working diligently to bring us the baddest-assest of StangFix memorabilia, the data cards.

One of the fields on this card is "Since" intended to hold the date you joined StangFix.

We're working to build the order form, and I realized that while americans use Month-first date formats, almost the rest of the world uses Day First.

So, my signup date would be June 16, 2009, as and American, I would want my card to say "06/16/2009" but if I were European, I would most natively think of that as "16/06/2009"

SO...the question came up, in my mind at least...How vital is this to you. To be blunt, I would venture to guess that less than 10% of americans are even aware our Date Format isn't the world Standard. And moreso, eventhough I understand that, when I see "16/06/2009" I don't even recognize it as a valid date.

If we only offered american date-coding, would that be...well, crappy?

I'm trying to figure out a way to allow our users to pick when they order their cards, but I'm not sure how easy that's going to be.
 
and just to clarify, our way is right and the rest of the world is wrong....end of story.



:ecit
 
Wait, what? There is MORE world than the US, Mexico, Canada and the Middle East? No way!
 
As a computer scientist, we would discuss the "endianness" of the date.

The vast majority of countries use "Little Endian" formats. That is the "little number comes first." Ergo, the least significant bit of data (day is least significant, as it only inidcates 24hours) comes first, followed by the next most significant, followed by the most significant.

Then there is "Big Endian" formatting. WHere the most siginficant piece of data (Year) comes first, and the numbers get less significant as you go to the right.

Then there is what the US uses which is called "Middle Endian" Which is that the significance of the numbers jump as you move left to right.

From a mathematical perspective, much like our measuring system, our method is the least logical.

From my perspective the most logical is BigEndian, because time is always displayed Big Endian (HH:MM:SS.SSSSS) and Dates and times are often concatenated together, so there is pure numerical beauty in:
2010-01-07 20:11:32.2937

That said, much like our illogical measuring system, I grew up with it, and it's the only damn way that makes sense!
 
I was actually considering using a Fordesque (made that up) date code as opposed to actual date. Although we would still need the date on the order form.

So 5/13/2009 would be E1309, or 1/07/2010 would be A0710.

A=Jan
B=Feb
C=Mar
etc.

That will kind of hide from know nots how long you've been a member but we'll all know and I suspect most "Ford Guys" would get it.
Comments?
 
You could always use the Julian date...

For the date... http://amsu.cira.colostate.edu/julian.html

The rest is easy, just don't carry it out past the year and day. Military used to use this on all work orders, of course, before the computer days.

Mine would be 8221.....Aug, 8, 08...8th year, 221 day of the year, being a leap year.
 
"Sluggo" said:
I was actually considering using a Fordesque (made that up) date code as opposed to actual date. Although we would still need the date on the order form.

So 5/13/2009 would be E1309, or 1/07/2010 would be A0710.

A=Jan
B=Feb
C=Mar
etc.

That will kind of hide from know nots how long you've been a member but we'll all know and I suspect most "Ford Guys" would get it.
Comments?
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You gotta let me know this stuff, I could do that so easy!
 
I started to but I figured it would be more work for you so I was going to translate right in my pea brain as I was making tags.

With your statement in mind, I have moved past considering it and it is now decided.

5/13/2009=E1309
 
Steve,

Try sniffing a couple tubes of glue before you start typing again. It'll be easier for us dumb folk to understand you.

Respectfully,
Dave
 
"daveSanborn" said:
Steve,

Try sniffing a couple tubes of glue before you start typing again. It'll be easier for us dumb folk to understand you.

Respectfully,
Dave
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No problem comprehending him here, maybe you need to start drinking after your first round of replies. :craz
 
start drinking after your first round of replies.
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My first round of replies usually starts at ~8AM. Are you authorizing me to drink at the office? I'll run it by the boss, but I have a feeling he'll say no. Worth asking him though, thanks!
 
"daveSanborn" said:
Steve,

Try sniffing a couple tubes of glue before you start typing again. It'll be easier for us dumb folk to understand you.

Respectfully,
Dave
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I agree with Dave (newsflash), would you brainiacs stop talking over our collective heads? We're just common folk, farmers, salt of the earth people; you know.........morons.
 
"Flysure1" said:
Hey Dave, just noticed your new signature picture, is that toenail polish you have on??? :sur
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It's his new "Metro" persona so he can keep his current set of buddies.
 
"daveSanborn" said:
My first round of replies usually starts at ~8AM. Are you authorizing me to drink at the office? I'll run it by the boss, but I have a feeling he'll say no. Worth asking him though, thanks!
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Wait a dang minute here.....who believes Dave "asks" any boss anything.....or if there is anyone who would try to be in that position?
 
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Hey Dave, just noticed your new signature picture, is that toenail polish you have on???
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The admin staff here personally requested that I use that photo as my avatar.... i.e., they wiggled their fat arses into my profile and changed it. I could change it back, but with their power they could just change it again. I figure that it could be a worse picture and have decided to just ignore it/them.
 
Well now...the international date also adds this twist. Suppose someone from Ireland joins at 5AM their time, but at 11PM server time. Is his join date at the server or at his home?

And what about Guamanians, who are always a day ahead of the rest of us? We know what to do with the Aussies: print everything upside down!
 
"Sluggo" said:
I was actually considering using a Fordesque (made that up) date code as opposed to actual date. Although we would still need the date on the order form.

So 5/13/2009 would be E1309, or 1/07/2010 would be A0710.

A=Jan
B=Feb
C=Mar
etc.

That will kind of hide from know nots how long you've been a member but we'll all know and I suspect most "Ford Guys" would get it.
Comments?
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No brainer, I say go for it.

"Flysure1" said:
I don't know how it is now but the military used to not do it in the 1/7/2010 format either.
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I remember it being 07JAN10 or as my first day 16DEC76.

fd
 
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