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You have to consider the type of careers those people are in, Craig. If you are operating a hot rod or bike shop the tats are more about a lifestyle rather than what drives/influences many of the people I am writing about. It's also a consideration of age. A fully inked out 25 year old is likely very different in life experience than say a 40 year old and that comes across in the interview process. And again, I am referencing actual real life, scientific data when I reference my company's testing results.

I am in no way saying a person with tattoos is lesser or not as equipped as a person without a tattoo to do a job simply because of the ink. I am saying the vast majority I have encountered are less qualified because of who they are intellectually and professionally largely do to the personality traits and decision making that was likely part of the process they went through when deciding to get all that ink/piercing.

To each their own is fine. Just don't blame everyone else when your choices limit your opportunities.
 
I hear ya, and I agree. The guys I am talking about are not suit and tie wearing kind of dudes. They are also old like me! And I get the stereotype thing, I have met a lot of people in my world travels. Some really fit the stereotypes but not everyone.
In fact I have had these discussion with my boys. I don't want them to be "judged" before they get a chance to prove themselves. I know some of these "kids" don't have a clue. When I was hired into the company I have now worked at for 27 years, I had hair down to the middle of my back and only wore tore up jeans, concert T shirts and so on. I had a mentor that took me under his wing and said if I want people to take me seriously I needed to change. He was right of course but I didn't go all the way. I still wear jeans to business meetings, I wear my Mustang Jackets instead of the company logo golf club stuff and on and on I could go. The world I work in know what my mentor saw all those years ago, I know what I am talking about. I don't fit the "norm" and I never will. Never wanted to. So I get it when people don't fit into a mold but I also get that they will be judged and they have to represent the company they want to work for so they have to conform a little.
 
I know in the industry I'm in dealing with the public, I don't want a neck tattoo guy as my coworker. Not that I don't think they can't do the job but I like my coworkers to look professional. Anything less cheapens it for all the other employees. Not sure if my meaning comes across correctly or not. But I consider myself a professional and want others around me to be the same.


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I get that. Certainly some areas of the body like head, neck, face tats, piercings etc. give a bad impression.
There was a time I think when only real bad asses had a tattoo and it might just be one. Now it seams everyone has one (or more) and so to create the shock value they have to get more creative where they put them I suppose. But some guys/gals don't do it for the shock value. If it is tasteful and has a personal meaning or whatever I can appreciate it. It's a lot like was said before, if you do it for attention it's the "me, I" thing vs. your personal choice. It can be obvious most of the time when people do things for the attention it gets rather than any other reason
 
Trust me I'm not against tats. Amanda has a couple. Tastefully done and appropriately place I'm ok with. But the dude with lips tattooed on his neck... give me a break stud lol.


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msell66 said:
Bullshit. The majority of people fit into those stereotypes.
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OK...let's talk about house-husbands, then. Everyone knows that these guys don't want to work and would rather sit on their ass and watch TV and bake cookies all day long and sponge off of their working wives. Takers, not makers.

Fair enough?
 
3175375 said:
these college basketball n football players make me puke. The # of tattoos they have are pathetic.

When I was in college, I was just happy to have a roof over my head.

I, me, mine
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Oh yeah, well I'm tired of judgemental old men bitching on the internet!
I'm kidding. That is meant as a joke. I'm glad we have these places on the internet to blow off a little steam now and then.
As for tats, one of the best bosses, nicest guys I ever worked for had neck and arm tattoos. Smart as a whip. He was also built like Ahnold Schwarzenegger. I didn't judge him by his appearance and I don't think he judged me.
Another case, we had this new kid about 30 years old show up for work with a small round band-aids on his cheek. I knew right away he was covering one of those jailhouse teardrop tattoos. He was trying real hard to make a good first impression and didn't want to be judged by the tat. As the day went on, he started sweating and of course the band-aid came off. Got to talking to him and he admitted making some mistakes as a kid the lessons he had learned. He turned out to be a real good worker and a really good guy. He's still with us and is doing well in his apprenticeship.
Really can't think of any negative experiences with tatted people, but then I'm not looking for any.
 
turq66 said:
Oh yeah, well I'm tired of judgemental old men bitching on the internet!
I'm kidding. That is meant as a joke. I'm glad we have these places on the internet to blow off a little steam now and then.
As for tats, one of the best bosses, nicest guys I ever worked for had neck and arm tattoos. Smart as a whip. He was also built like Ahnold Schwarzenegger. I didn't judge him by his appearance and I don't think he judged me.
Another case, we had this new kid about 30 years old show up for work with a small round band-aids on his cheek. I knew right away he was covering one of those jailhouse teardrop tattoos. He was trying real hard to make a good first impression and didn't want to be judged by the tat. As the day went on, he started sweating and of course the band-aid came off. Got to talking to him and he admitted making some mistakes as a kid the lessons he had learned. He turned out to be a real good worker and a really good guy. He's still with us and is doing well in his apprenticeship.
Really can't think of any negative experiences with tatted people, but then I'm not looking for any.
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That he knew well enough to cover the tattoo indicates he understands how society will see him which means he is not one of the types we are writing about here. I'm sure he also wishes he never got it in the first place. Young and dumb. We've all been there. Everyone can say they don't judge by appearance but they are full of it. It's instinctual. It's what kept our ancestors alive. Now if a person allows their first impression to be the only information they seek and use to quantify a person they've got their own issues.
 
Midlife said:
OK...let's talk about house-husbands, then. Everyone knows that these guys don't want to work and would rather sit on their ass and watch TV and bake cookies all day long and sponge off of their working wives. Takers, not makers.

Fair enough?
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I only know one such lucky guy and that pretty much defines him perfectly. SOB won't share the cookies though.
 
Wow. Didn't realize we had so many self righteous people. Who cares if they have tattoos or piercings? Does it affect you? Does it make your life more difficult because people choose to do that? Some people here grew up poor, others don't, and that's not their fault. Who cares how they spend their money? Does that affect your life? I'm sure the starving tattoo artist appreciates it, but i guess the people complaining about it are blinded by their own self absorbed jealousys. I can't believe someone is so concerned about other people having tattoos, that they'd make a thread about it on a car forum. Maybe the ones concerned so much about other people's lives, should take a look in the mirror and worry about their own.
 
Better things to spend money on than adding garbage to yourself. Why not send a Boy Scout to summer camp in stead? Pouring money down the drain for self centered things is not right
 
How do you know what they do with the rest of their money? Why do you care? Who are you to say what and where they spend their own money, and whether it's right or wrong? What have you done to give you the right to judge and criticize someone for what they spend their money on? Somewhere somebody is saying it's dumb for you to dump money into a old car that's polluting the environment. There are people out there actively trying to kill the classic car hobby. You're no different, with your judgemental thoughts, than the people that don't want you spending your own money on your own car. Pouring money down the drain into an old car, is self centered and not right.....
 
msell66 said:
Bullshit. The majority of people fit into those stereotypes.
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I've gotta agree with Mark that in my experience the stereotype prevails more often than not. My youngest son's first wife had lots of tats. She left my son and my 10 YEAR OLD GRANDSON. She said she didn't have anything in common with her own son. She went on to sponge off her sisters until they wouldn't have her, then shacked-up with a felon who got her pregnant and was thrown back in jail. Now she's destitute. I feel for the kid; it will be a miracle if he makes anything of himself with mama as an example. Oh, and ex-daughter-in-laws parents are a shrink and a lawyer...no wonder she's so screwed-up. My new daughter-in-law (who doesn't have any tats that I know of) is very successful, just got her MBA and had adopted a Navajo Indian child before marrying my son (she is white). That's my minuscule example of two young women in my family.
 
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