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Toyota Recall: What do you think?

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I'm wondering what will happen to Toyota's reputation after this massive recall and embargo on selling many of their new models. I've heard that many rental companies are pulling their Toyotas from the lot.

Is Toyota doing the right thing from a public relations perspective? Who's going to win in the short term and long term?
 
Their reputation won't change for me, as they make a great product. $hit happens, and this is one of those times for them. My DD is a 15 year old Camry, and it is the most reliable car I've ever owned. I'm not kissing their butt, just giving credit where it is due.

This should be good for Ford and others too. BTW, Ford posted a nice profit of 2.7B in 2009.
 
Won't stop me from buying them. It might be a great stock to watch though as there is sure to be a dip when low sales #s are reported.
 
It happens. This isn't the first auto recall and it won't be the last. Personally, I don't think I'll ever own one, but the work car is a Toyota. No major complaints.
 
I am probably one of the very few that doesn't like Toyota, so I think it couldn't happen to a better company. I think they need to be knocked down a peg or two.

I think people need to understand that all car mfg companies make cars that have issues. some are great cars and some are crap!

Toyota has been selling on it's reputation long enough!

Mel
 
Toyota is doing the right thing and as quickly as possible. No different from Ford's cruise switch problem. They were supplied faulty parts from one of their vendors.

I have spent the last four days inspecting pedals, graphing sensor signals, uploading info to Toyota, etc.

It does nothing to their reputation in my eyes. I have worked on this product for many years, and have my wife and kids all in Toyotas.

One of the kid's cars is on the list even though there has been no reports of that model having a problem. The model is on the list because the pedal assembly came from the same source as the suspect pedals. I'm sure because it uses similar construction.

Affected vehicles are all North America built with USA sourced parts. Japan built cars do not have the problem. Yes, I say say this with great sadness.
 
It gives me a little more respect for Toyota. Not so sure about the quickly thing though. Or was it because they were not sure of the problem at first and just blamed it on floor mats. So now they have identified the problem and are stepping up to the plate letting be known that there is a problem and what they are doing to resolve it. fd
 
Recalls happen. Safety recalls are no joke and have to be addressed right away. I'm actually surprised it took them this long for the recall since this has been spoken about for months now.

I'm not a fan of Toyota and dont think they are all they are hyped up to be. Not saying they are bad but not what they are advertised as...
 
I just bought a used Tacoma pickup. it's an 02 with 100k on it, but rock solid and drives like it just rolled off the showroom floor...

I've had several Toy's over the years and the only ones I had trouble with were the mid 80's pickups. The body panels rusted faster than I would have liked.

Heck, look what they did for the frame problems Tacomas had. I looked at several that Toyota had replaced the frame on. Test drove one with a replaced frame and would have bought that one if it had power windows...
 
I had one and my grandmother had one. Hers left me stranded several times. Mine was a good truck, but felt cheap. Granted this is years ago...Still will not have one in my driveway!

Bad for the economy, bad for the country and not as good as they are hyped to be! INHO!

The rest of my opinions on foreign cars can only be voiced in a PW lounge!

Mel
 
"guruatbol" said:
Bad for the economy, bad for the country and not as good as they are hyped to be! INHO!
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Aren't quite a few of the Toyota's built in the US now days?

-rob
 
"66gt350" said:
Aren't quite a few of the Toyota's built in the US now days?

-rob
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Even if they are built here it is bad for us! We need to be self sufficient and getting foreign mfgers in here to build their product and take the money out of the country is just as disgusting as our companies out sourcing the jobs out of the country.

Mel
 
"FordDude" said:
It gives me a little more respect for Toyota. Not so sure about the quickly thing though. Or was it because they were not sure of the problem at first and just blamed it on floor mats. So now they have identified the problem and are stepping up to the plate letting be known that there is a problem and what they are doing to resolve it. fd
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The floor mat in question was in fact a problem. It was an optional/over the counter all weather mat constructed of thick rubbery plastic. Very heavy. If allowed to creep up toward the firewall, the pedal could be trapped by hanging up on the edge of the mat. There is a cutout area around the pedal. They would have been better off letting it continue to cover the floor under the pedal which would have helped prevent the creeping and worst case would have not allowed full pedal travel.

I'm afraid the floor mat issue and the fact that an actual pedal failure is super rare, masked the more relevant problem, thus delaying the necessary action. I think it would have been far worse to deem it a floor mat only issue, make the corrections, then announce another recall on the pedal. That would shatter anyone's confidence in them.

Lets hope like hell no other manufacturers are sourcing pedals fro CTS. I'm afraid that's prolly (hehehe, Cloney) going to prove to be wishful thinking.
 
"guruatbol" said:
Even if they are built here it is bad for us! We need to be self sufficient and getting foreign mfgers in here to build their product and take the money out of the country is just as disgusting as our companies out sourcing the jobs out of the country.

Mel
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I respectfully disagree with ya, Mel. How many jobs are those manufacturing plants producing. There are also several engineering and design centers here, also.
-rob
 
"guruatbol" said:
Even if they are built here it is bad for us! We need to be self sufficient and getting foreign mfgers in here to build their product and take the money out of the country is just as disgusting as our companies out sourcing the jobs out of the country.

Mel
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Mel,
You don't like Toyota and that's ok.

Keep in mind there are millions of Americans whose lifes are affected by their USA presence on a daily basis. Vendors, box manufacturers, textile companies, mechanics, salespeople, etc.

I have earned a nice living in the 28 years I have worked on their product and every friggin' dime I've earned has been spent right here in the god 'ol USA.
 
"66gt350" said:
I respectfully disagree with ya, Mel. How many jobs are those manufacturing plants producing. There are also several engineering and design centers here, also.
-rob
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My point is how many more jobs would be created if they were US companies with the jobs here. I don't agree with the US companies out sourcing jobs either.


Sluggo, just think how much better it would be if it was a US company and they didn't outsource! How many more people would benefit?


Mel
 
"guruatbol" said:
My point is how many more jobs would be created if they were US companies with the jobs here. I don't agree with the US companies out sourcing jobs either.


Sluggo, just think how much better it would be if it was a US company and they didn't outsource! How many more people would benefit?


Mel
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They are a US company. Toyota Motor Sales USA. A USA built Camry has more USA sourced parts than any domestic car has.

This is against my better judgement but.......
Just think if they only would have outsourced those gas pedals to Denso in Japan. We would not even be reading this thread.
 
Without regard to the merits of US vs off shore companies, you cannot buy a 'US' vehicle anymore - especially not by brand name.

My wifes' BMW X5 has a significantly higher US made content than my Dodge Ram (something like 80+% vs 60ish % for the Dodge IIRC). Both were assembled in the US, but the X5 used more parts made here.
 
I think the media's coverage of this recall has been pretty quiet compared to what it would've been had Ford, GM, or Chrysler had the same problem.
 
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